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So how much Arimidex should I use and how many days a week?
Only your doctor can tell you that.

But I think you need to get good BAT and ultrasensitive E2 tests done to make sure you are even on the right dose of T first.
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So how much Arimidex should I use and how many days a week?
BOTTOM LINE: Wait and see what reducing your testosterone dosage does to your E2. Why would you want to do both at the same time? Makes no sense to me, and you'll end up chasing your tail.
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Can anyone help me find a doctor near Albany, NY?
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Can anyone help me find a doctor near Albany, NY?
All Things Male - Center for Men's Health
919 Chester Street
Lansing, MI 48912

Honestly, make the trip and you'll have a brand new life ahead of you. Don't make the trip and you may still be messing around in 15 years time.

Edit: Google Maps says 9 hours 40 mins from Albany, NY. I was driving 10 hours from Melb to Syd to see a doctor every month until I found my new one.

Edit 2: I believe you only have to see him for an initial consult? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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He will also work with your local doctor, no visit required, but it does require an open mind on your doctor's part.
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Default Re: I'm on doc prescribed TRT at 175 mg of test cyp weekly and my estradiol is 112

Thank God for this site. I've been reading EVERYTHING about TRT on these forums. I've also in the past read A LOT of information from the man himself Dr. John Crisler.

Here's what I'm going to do:

I'm going to wait 7 weeks before I get my next labs. If after getting 125 mg test a week (down from 175 mg test week) my estradiol is still high, I will take Arimidex. I've read from Dr. Crislers publishings on this site that he reccommends between 0.25 and 0.5mg Arimidex every one to third day, depending upon the specific situation. Here's what I'm going to do: I'm going to take 0.5 every 3 days. For example, take 0.5 mg on Monday and than take 0.5 mg Thursday. And than take 0.5 mg on Sunday and than 0.5 mg on Wednesday, etc. I will do this for 5 weeks (Dr. Crisler says when starting Arimidex wait atleast 5 weeks before getting follow up labs). If my estradiol is still high I will than take 0.5 mg every 2 days for 5 weeks than get labs. If my estradiol is STILL high, I will than take 0.5 mg every day for 5 weeks and get labs. By than my estradiol should be under control.

Meanwhile, my doc will be injecting me once weekly of 125 mg of test. I will also continue taking my Nature-throid 1 1/2 grain daily and 50 mg daily of DHEA (25 mg morning/25 mg evening). Also taking Nexium 40 mg daily and Lisinopril 40 mg daily.

Is this a good plan of attack?

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Default Re: I'm on doc prescribed TRT at 175 mg of test cyp weekly and my estradiol is 112

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Thank God for this site. I've been reading EVERYTHING about TRT on these forums. I've also in the past read A LOT of information from the man himself Dr. John Crisler.

Here's what I'm going to do:

I'm going to wait 7 weeks before I get my next labs. If after getting 125 mg test a week (down from 175 mg test week) my estradiol is still high, I will take Arimidex. I've read from Dr. Crislers publishings on this site that he reccommends between 0.25 and 0.5mg Arimidex every one to third day, depending upon the specific situation. Here's what I'm going to do: I'm going to take 0.5 every 3 days. For example, take 0.5 mg on Monday and than take 0.5 mg Thursday. And than take 0.5 mg on Sunday and than 0.5 mg on Wednesday, etc. I will do this for 5 weeks (Dr. Crisler says when starting Arimidex wait atleast 5 weeks before getting follow up labs). If my estradiol is still high I will than take 0.5 mg every 2 days for 5 weeks than get labs. If my estradiol is STILL high, I will than take 0.5 mg every day for 5 weeks and get labs. By than my estradiol should be under control.

Meanwhile, my doc will be injecting me once weekly of 125 mg of test. I will also continue taking my Nature-throid 1 1/2 grain daily and 50 mg daily of DHEA (25 mg morning/25 mg evening). Also taking Nexium 40 mg daily and Lisinopril 40 mg daily.

Is this a good plan of attack?
Sounds reasonable. However.........I'm assuming you are going to start taking the Arimidex without your doctors blessing since you said he will not prescribe it? If that is the case do you plan on telling him you are taking it whether he likes it or not? I believe in being completely open and honest with my doctors. Plus, he will probably wonder why your E2 is coming down since he isn't prescribing anything for it, and if he finds out you are taking it without his blessing he will probably give you the boot and then you will have bigger problems.

Have you presented your doctor with Dr. Crisler's papers on TRT and HCG? If you haven't given them to him yet I would suggest you do so and see what he has to say about Dr. Crisler's recommendations before you jump on the self medicating band wagon.

The best choice would be just keep on your current protocol if it is tolerable and to save up your money until you can make the trip to see Dr. Crisler. I know it sounds like a lot of money and a long trip but once you bite the bullet and do it you will be so very glad you did.

That's my 2 cents.
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Default Re: I'm on doc prescribed TRT at 175 mg of test cyp weekly and my estradiol is 112

I would simply echo the thoughts of those here; IMO it would be worthwhile to see Dr. Crisler.
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I understand all of that.

Your preference is to not use Arimidex. I would prefer to use Arimidex instead of doing EOD shots if it works. I would much rather take small pieces of a tiny pill now and then than jab myself with needles nearly every day. To each his own.
For me, it is not about

high cost of Arimidex

it is not about

side effects of Arimidex

it is not about

how difficult it is to get Arimidex or hard time to cut the pills

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It is about difficulty or rather impossibility of finding dose of Arimidex that would always work.

It is about having strong morning wood

asking girl for sex 12 hours latter

and then
having limp di**k when she is waiting

couple of these and I have anxiety for the next 6 months or a year, every time I have a sex.

No thank you.

If I only am able to manage my E2 with out Arimidex,
EOD shots (for me) is a small price to pay.


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Default Re: I'm on doc prescribed TRT at 175 mg of test cyp weekly and my estradiol is 112

Here is a copy on what I tell men so they don't go to low on Arimidex.
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What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need .25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.


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And this is what Chilln dose so he can take it everyday.
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Most compounding pharmacies will require a prescription from a doctor, before they do this.

Once your prescription says "300 caps x 0.1mg" or "600 caps x 0.05mg" anastrozole "from 1 to 4 daily", (anastrozole = generic arimidex) then they will compound your arimidex, or generic anastrozole, and they will usually supply the arimidex as compounded into the caps you require.

My compounding pharmacist was prepared to allow me to supply the arimidex too. If you have several boxes of arimidex in your cupboard, then you may want to ask your pharmacist to do this for you.

If you don't have any arimidex stores, then just let the compounding pharmacy supply the whole lot.

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A pack of 30 tabs of 1.0mg arimidex will give 300 caps at 0.1mg-per-cap, or 600 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap.

So if your pharmacy chooses to supply arimidex as opposed to generic anastrozole, then your pharmacy will most likely not agree to only charge you for a half-a-box of arimidex, and most likely they'll charge for a whole box, even if your prescription says 300 caps at 0.05mg-per-cap (total of 15mg)

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