I know this is off topic but maybe better for your health.

[pmgamer18]

EVERY AMERICAN NEEDS TO FOLLOW THIS!!!!!!!



Gas
rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it.

It might even be good for us!

The Saudis are boycotting American goods.

We should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.
Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into
the coffers of Saudi Arabia Just buy from gas companies that don't
import their oil from the Saudis.


Nothing is more frustrating
than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my
money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies ar
e the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle
Eastern oil BOY COT These COMPANIES And Watch Gas Prices Fall/ These
companies import Middle Eastern oil :
Shell........... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil...............
130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco..........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo.......from South America , from a Dictator who hates Americans

If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18
BILLION! (oil is now over $90 a barrel and heading to $100.00/)

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:


Sunoco................0 barrels
Conoco................0 barrels
Sinclair................0 barrels
BP / Phillips.........0 barrels
Hess...................0 barrels
ARC0..................0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and
each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are
importig.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas
buyers. It's really simple to do.

Now, don't wimp out at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how
simple it is t o reach millions of people!!

I'm sending this note to about thirty people .
If each of you s end it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and

those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) . and so on,
by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people,

we wi l l have reached over THREE MILLION consumers !!!!!!! < /U>

If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each,
then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it .... THREE HUNDRED MILLION
PEOPLE!!!


Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How long would all
that take?

If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the nex t
eight days !

[Wise Guy]

I heard something interesting the other day

This older gent, 40's, told me when he was a kid he could fill up his gas tank with 2 silver dollar coins(real silver coins back in those days, they weighed once ounce each, costing a dollar each)

Guess what? He still can - Silver now trades at 20 bucks an ounce

Not only has the price of silver and gold outdone the dollar, it has smashed the dollar into the ground.

The moral of the story?

Invest in solver and gold.

You heard it here

[cpeil2]

I heard something interesting the other day

This older gent, 40's, told me when he was a kid he could fill up his gas tank with 2 silver dollar coins(real silver coins back in those days, they weighed once ounce each, costing a dollar each)

Guess what? He still can - Silver now trades at 20 bucks an ounce

Not only has the price of silver and gold outdone the dollar, it has smashed the dollar into the ground.

The moral of the story?

Invest in solver and gold.

You heard it here



Gold was so high in the late seventies and early eighties that newspapers were full of ads from places wanting to buy gold jewelry. I sold a 14k gold ring for at least twice what I paid for it. Needless to say, gold was a great investment - for awhile. People who didn't get out at the right time lost most or all of their gains - pretty quickly.

[wondering]

of course it is worth more..cash loses value every day it is called inflation. If you took all your money and converted it to dollars and put it under your mattress for 30 years, do you think it will be worth more?

How many dollars did it cost to buy a car 30 years ago vs today? true cash as in paper bills loses value constantly at an average rate of 3 - 3.5% a year the historical rate of inflation.

That is why we invest our 401ks in stocks and bonds.

Don't mean to turn this into a financial board, but everyone would be better off putting your money in a low-cost index fund from a firm like Vanguard - and no I dont work for Vanguard, just an example.


I heard something interesting the other day

This older gent, 40's, told me when he was a kid he could fill up his gas tank with 2 silver dollar coins(real silver coins back in those days, they weighed once ounce each, costing a dollar each)

Guess what? He still can - Silver now trades at 20 bucks an ounce

Not only has the price of silver and gold outdone the dollar, it has smashed the dollar into the ground.

The moral of the story?

Invest in solver and gold.

You heard it here

[wondering]

sorry didnt mean to come off as harsh... i tend to be blunt and to the point.

take care of yourselves.


of course it is worth more..cash loses value every day it is called inflation. If you took all your money and converted it to dollars and put it under your mattress for 30 years, do you think it will be worth more?

How many dollars did it cost to buy a car 30 years ago vs today? true cash as in paper bills loses value constantly at an average rate of 3 - 3.5% a year the historical rate of inflation.

That is why we invest our 401ks in stocks and bonds.

Don't mean to turn this into a financial board, but everyone would be better off putting your money in a low-cost index fund from a firm like Vanguard - and no I dont work for Vanguard, just an example.

[JanSz]

of course it is worth more..cash loses value every day it is called inflation. If you took all your money and converted it to dollars and put it under your mattress for 30 years, do you think it will be worth more?

How many dollars did it cost to buy a car 30 years ago vs today? true cash as in paper bills loses value constantly at an average rate of 3 - 3.5% a year the historical rate of inflation.

That is why we invest our 401ks in stocks and bonds.

Don't mean to turn this into a financial board, but everyone would be better off putting your money in a low-cost index fund from a firm like Vanguard - and no I dont work for Vanguard, just an example.

BPTRX --15
DODFX --05
RYOCX --15
VWIGX --05
VTSMX --45

[4aminsomniac]

BPTRX --15
DODFX --05
RYOCX --15
VWIGX --05
VTSMX --45

Is this your portfolio breakdown?

Wow, some of those are real losers...

Maybe get into PSPFX...I've killed on that over the past few years..natural resources aren't getting any cheaper, never will...ride it.

If you are older, those are some ok funds, but if you are under 50..I would be much more aggressive personally. This should be in an off-topic section maybe..

[JanSz]

Is this your portfolio breakdown?

Wow, some of those are real losers...

Maybe get into PSPFX...I've killed on that over the past few years..natural resources aren't getting any cheaper, never will...ride it.

If you are older, those are some ok funds, but if you are under 50..I would be much more aggressive personally. This should be in an off-topic section maybe..

Your idea requires good timing.
I am more of hands of at this time.

[AnotherOldGuy]

This older gent, 40's, told me when he was a kid he could fill up his gas tank with 2 silver dollar coins

I'm in my 50's - and the least I paid for gas was $0.249/gallon, that would have been in 1971 (I remember because I had a '67 Mustang). Wondering if he had a motorbike?

[cpeil2]

I'm in my 50's - and the least I paid for gas was $0.249/gallon, that would have been in 1971 (I remember because I had a '67 Mustang). Wondering if he had a motorbike?


I think he must have been remembering a past life. I doubt whether somebody in their 40's now would remember when real silver dollars were in general circulation - the last ones were minted in 1935.


When I was a kid, you could get still get them sometimes at the bank. Aunts and uncles and grandparents gave them to kids for birthdays, etc. You didn't spend them, they were keepsakes.


I do remember, when I was a REALLY little kid, my dad would pull into the gas station and ask for "Three dollars' worth." I don't know how much that was, but enough for several days anyway.

[Dwight Hooper]

I think he must have been remembering a past life. I doubt whether somebody in their 40's now would remember when real silver dollars were in general circulation - the last ones were minted in 1935.


When I was a kid, you could get still get them sometimes at the bank. Aunts and uncles and grandparents gave them to kids for birthdays, etc. You didn't spend them, they were keepsakes.


I do remember, when I was a REALLY little kid, my dad would pull into the gas station and ask for "Three dollars' worth." I don't know how much that was, but enough for several days anyway.


Perhaps it was just a little conflation of facts. I do remember
as a kid in the early 60's when the silver quarters and dimes
were changed to copper coated with silver coins. The older
coins rather quickly disappeared from circulation as I dimly
recall.

[Pace2]

Please, how can you possibly say rationing worked? Gas was rationed because the government decided to fix prices below where the natural market price was. This resulted in shortages and gas lines. Not only did Americans needlessly waste time in gas lines, but the below market price reduced any incentive for producers to go and produce more gas and find more oil, which just perpetuates the same problem. Only when Reagan took the cap off gas prices and prices were allowed to move with the market did the problem get solved.

Yes, consumers paid more initially, but now the incentives were in place to fix the problem. Consumers drove less/used less gas because now it cost more and producers had the incentive to go and produce more gas and find more oil. The result? Supply increased and the price fell sharply from the highs.

You would be better off using the time sitting in a gas line, and go workout if you are really worried about your health.

The problem with high oil prices this time around is simple. The Fed is lowering the value of our $ by printing too much money and not supporting our currency and our dollar relative to oil (and gold, and other currency) is falling. Oil denominated in gold or Euro's would barely have changed from 2003.

Econ 101

[pmgamer18]

Here is one Alas, this is an urban legend (http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp).

[jezzicaz789]

Thanks you for the post.
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