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hardasnails1973

12-13-2007, 04:06 PM

MY current protocol is
60 mgs T m,th
250 ius hcg sunday, wedneday
.25 armidex m,th
1 grain of armour AM and 1/2 mid afternnon
12.5mcgs t3 am and 12.5 mcgs mid afternoon
50 mgs DHEA subligual - This may be too much but how am i to know?
50 mgs topical preg creame
5 mgs cortef 3 times a day every 4 hours

Supplements
5,000 mcgs methy b-12
5,000 mcgs folinic aid
800 mgs sam-e
1000 mgs TMG
100 mgs P5P
500 mgs b-2, b-3, b1,
10 mgs biotin
intramax multivitamin/mineral
digestive enyzme each meal
oxbile with each meal
3 mgs copper
50 mgs zinc
600 mgs calcium
25 mgs manganese
1000 mgs magnesium
300 mgs dim pro
320 saw palmento
3000 mgs vitamin C
1000 mgs calcium d glurare
4 healthy trinity before bed
150 mgs chelated iron - low ferritin
10,000 ius vitamin D
600 mgs nettle root at 60%

Dietary
2-3TBSP of hempseed oil
2 TBSP Extra virgin cooconut oil
2 tsp fish oils carlsosn

Current statis feeling like shit,
My last e2 was 57 so keep all varabile the same I added in .25 mgs adex every m,th after 2 days I was still losing erection and could not under stand why when all was normal with out adex. Well the hcg bottle was on day 25 and I started to have low e2 symptoms. I just found out that white wine raisies your e2 a high rate but red wine does not and actually may lower it. I had a few glasses of white wine and it made me feel relaxed and I could actually goto the bathroom. However that previous day I had taken an hcg shot of a new batch and did not take armidex thinking I was low already to begin with. Well to my surprise next day i woke up with a woody and had a freaken wet dream even. I was like DAMN then over the rest of the day i felt pretty good till night time then I start to get that rash under my arm pits again and wood just totally died. The next day I woke up feeling dead to the word and was in an emotional bind to where I felt no love, no remorse nothing , a complete zombie. My consitpation got worse and I started to ge that funky smell on me again that is noticeable when e2 goes up plus i had no drive to save my life and all I wanted to do was sleep, and was constantly sweating, horrible brain fog, then the joint pains started to increase as well as brain fog from hell. I almost burned the house down because I forgot to turn off the stove when i was done and the pan was left on top of it. Then the definiete sign of high e2 came today the boobs where hurting like crazy, and my herpes is starting to resurface !!. So far right now I just want to crawl into bed and die. My e2 has been 17 all my life and I never beleived that a person can be e2 sensitive as i am THIS SUCKS !! ..I would love to find the under lying cause of elevated e2 and nip it that way..I have examined every aspect of biology to pin point the cause and it can only be altered 4,16, ratios/2 hydroxyesterones thats affecting me. As you can see i just can not shake this e2 ...

pmgamer18

12-13-2007, 04:31 PM

Sorry this keeps happening to you get busy and figure this out. I two have this problem and with me from week to week I do and eat the same yet my E2 goes every where I just can't find a good dose that will work the same from week to week.

hardasnails1973

12-13-2007, 04:45 PM

Phil i belive the solution lies in the Pm i sent you ..and when you think about it makes really logical sense..

pmgamer18

12-13-2007, 04:57 PM

I feel I have this covered so what more can one do I don't want to take a mess of supplements that don't do jack. I guess I need a test that will show this problem.

Phil i belive the solution lies in the Pm i sent you ..and when you think about it makes really logical sense..

hardasnails1973

12-13-2007, 05:09 PM

Simple test is genova estroesscence test but you only need
2,4,16 hydroxesterone and 4 methylesterone not every thing else ..
All you need is right in there !! to answer several questions
1. membrane integrity
2. methylation issues
3. b-12/folate functional defiecincy
4. how much fish oil do you really need

If you are low thyroid bank on iodine defieincy some degree.
If iodine defiecincy this affects e2 metabolism to estriol because it helps bleed bad estrogens out.

pmgamer18

12-13-2007, 05:13 PM

Ok give me the name of this test and I well see if my Dr. will do it when I see him next week.

Simple test is genova estroesscence test but you only need
2,4,16 hydroxesterone and 4 methylesterone not every thing else ..
All you need is right in there !! to answer several questions
1. membrane integrity
2. methylation issues
3. b-12/folate functional defiecincy
4. how much fish oil do you really need

If you are low thyroid bank on iodine defieincy some degree.
If iodine defiecincy this affects e2 metabolism to estriol because it helps bleed bad estrogens out.

BigAk

12-13-2007, 05:47 PM

HAN... Didn't you post this problem on Meso and your blood work showed your Free T off the chart on the high range??? Then I suggested dropping your Testosterone Dosage rather than adding an additional drug (Arimidex) and Plymouth agreed with me?? Obviously you selected otherwise!!

Could it be that you're putting in your body a sh*t load of drugs and supplements that your body is constantly having to adjust to try to reach some sort of comfortable equilibrium and its having a hard time and failing you??

Could you reach success if you kept things simple and gave your body the absolute minimum requirement of drugs and supplements to work with? Hell; could you reach ultimate success if you put in your body absolute nothing and let it recover on its own??

I know you're probably getting mad at my later suggestion and saying "HELL NO, I'm not going to stop everything and see if my body can recover or not."... To this I say "Why not???" I mean... F*ck bro... you're always feeling like crap anyway... Why not try to see if your body will not disappoint you and go through the hard times of recovery?? Don't you owe it to your body?? You're in your thirties and it can be done?? Others have done it.. so could you!!!!... What happened that made you lose faith in your body's ability to succeed??

You and I have gone through the same life style of bodybuilding and competition... So did thousands of other men around the world... Is everyone of us on HRT?? I've talked to you before and I'm not sure how much time you've allowed for recovery. But, I know one thing... I know that you spend a whole lot of time trying to perfect your HRT..... Could you have succeeded by now if you've put in the same amount of time and research in trying to recover your HPTA and live drug free for the rest of your life??? Are you eventually going to succeed in perfecting your HRT??... These are some good valid questions and deserve some real thinking, contemplating and answers imo.

Anyway.. I don't want to make you mad brother... I just hate to see you struggling like this.. You're extremely smart... very knowledgeable.. I can't touch you when it comes to your research and data in your head... Heck; I can't even pronounce much of the stuff you talk about.. But, I'm smart enough to see the simple truths that often get overlooked by geniuses who desire to solve the mystery of the universe... and God only knows, the human endocrine system is complex enough that I'm willing to bet that man has not even broken a fraction of the its puzzle.

Choose to address my this post... or choose to chuck it and ignore it.. fine either way... just don't hate me for sharing my thoughts.

With all my respect... :D

hardasnails1973

12-13-2007, 06:23 PM

I know BigaK. With in 30 seconds Dr john told me straight up what screwed my hpta up and I told drs this from the start that it was some kind of dietary imbalnaces affecting me, but i could not get it proven why? I literlly was laughed out of 5 drs office and offered paxil instead of further investigating hormonal imblanaces which where evident at first. I

I had to go to 3 psych evaluations where psychiatrist got a rude surprise.
They had no idea that I had such a broad understanding of the type of interrogation I was under and also my understanding of neurochemistry and interraction of the brain differnt system. 2 of them even asked me if I had medical traning in psychology.

When i first was feeling ill my ft4 was on top end of normal and ft3 at bottom base line that was the red flag. It was excessive flax seed oil and it went rancid going rancid causing liver congestion as 3 other drs have noted but never pin pointed the reason. I cut my red meat and ate mainly fish and turkey, chicken for my protein sources as well as cut out whole eggs and just eating egg whites and protein powders. With in 12 weeks the damage was already done and the altered ft3 and ft4 ratio was the kick off to the cascade of events to follow. The problem with TRT in the past was that my test where never at the same time in relation to taking the hcg. I just finally figured this out so I need to have the test taken with in 2-3 weeks of opening the bottle then that will give me a real reading. Once little problem is taken care of then I will have accruate readings for future reference.

I have been told i should be taking more test to increase my BAT. For me 120mgs is my cut off not going any higher when there is no need too.
i felt great on 115-120 a week and 1 mgs armidex a week, but the thing was because of the hcg thinking it as good for more then 30 days I began to fall apart and got worse. WELL NOW I KNOW the cause thanks to phil.

Yes there is a possiblity of starting me up natural my essential fats to make the hormones last blood test where extremely defieincy. I am getting another test done with RBC and if my hypothesis is right being low to begin with and adding DHEA drove them even lower as i have prevoiusly pointed out and if you look mainy symptoms of low DHEA are same as fatty acid defieincies (see a releationship?)

BigAk

12-13-2007, 08:41 PM

Yes there is a possiblity of starting me up natural my essential fats to make the hormones last blood test where extremely defieincy. I am getting another test done with RBC and if my hypothesis is right being low to begin with and adding DHEA drove them even lower as i have prevoiusly pointed out and if you look mainy symptoms of low DHEA are same as fatty acid defieincies (see a releationship?)

Are you saying that by fixing your essential fats that would pave a way into possible recovery of your HPTA??? If that's the case, that's awesome news. Is that on your agenda at some point then?? What's your order of fixing things?? I know that you're dealing with your thyroid also...

BTW.. I'm glad you're not pissed at me.. :D

hardasnails1973

12-14-2007, 09:21 AM

Last night before bed I took .5 mgs of armdiex and this morning I can feel my breathing much easier, joints are not as sore, slept like a rock, and boobs are not as sore but they still are alittle bit, less anxiety, voice deeping. urine stream is much stronger, but consitpation is still there. I have an idea that taking 50 mgs of the sublingual dhea was kicking my e2 up so I backed it down to 25 mgs a day instead. Going to stay with .25 mgs adex m,wf for now and keep the dhea at 25 mgs a day and then retest. My Goal is to re-establish my fatty acids back to cell membrane saturation and hopefully this is help regulate the ecosonoids and to restore HPTA axis (fingers crossed). My cholestreol has been dropping and never knew reason why, but I think I finally put my finger on it. My goal by re establish proper 4:1 balnce of omega 6 to 3 should hopefully alleviate the estrogen imbalnaces as well. in the past i took alot of EFA and my e2 was never above 17 so if my body has been depleted for so long then it may not have the proper nutritoinal balance to regulate e2 metabolism. The reason I go with Hemp seed oil is 2 factors. One it contans the proper cell membrane ratio of 3:1 ratio of omega 6:3. 2 it contains 500 mgs GLA pre TBSP. Hemp seed oil unlike flax or evenin primose is non estrogenic so there is no need to worry about estrogen conversion. One can subsititure actually hempseed which are even highly loaded inbioavailbale nutrients and incredible source of insoluable fiber, protein. That is why I emphasis specific testing do rule out this extremly over looked varaibles in return to essential health.

scottyo

12-14-2007, 11:49 AM

What version of dhea are you taking these days? I know that someone put out a time released dhea, and im thinking switching to that but right now I just use normal 25mg 2x a day.

hardasnails1973

12-14-2007, 12:02 PM

As long as your labs indicate that levels are going up stay with it. what ever form you use. I use subligual spray 12.5 mgs a BID. I think 25 mgs BID was more like 100 mgs dhea a day since it is more absorbale buccally

BigAk

12-14-2007, 12:06 PM

My Goal is to re-establish my fatty acids back to cell membrane saturation and hopefully this is help regulate the ecosonoids and to restore HPTA axis (fingers crossed). .

Excellent idea HAN.... I'm glad you're thinking about recovery. As you know, I'm also working with Dr. John on my recovery and currently waiting to hear about my latest Urine tests results. I've been feeling great lately... It's amazing... I almost dread the moment if I have to go on TRT again. I'm hoping Dr. John will not run out of trick up his sleeve in trying to figure out my case... :D

hardasnails1973

12-14-2007, 12:20 PM

my goal is to uncover why my estrogen metabolism is screwed and how to fix it through diertary manipulation and eventually get on armidex and eventually HRT .. If one is low in AA from excessive marine oils or flaxseed oils then your hormonal cascade comes to a grinding halt and as one endo put it to me "my pituitary was asleep, but i never knew why but now I do !! I shut my self down throug dietary imbalnces thnking it was healthy, but excessive flaxseed oil over the previous years caused a dysruption in the HPTA axis..Dr john nailed it in 30 seconds and told me that I have been correct from the start of things..So root cause of my problem was alteration in liver pathways due to self induced fatty liver through dietary imbalnces and probably excessive toxins from plastics adding fuel to the fire as well.

hardasnails1973

12-15-2007, 09:47 AM

Today i can feel the estrogen is coming down. I been very cautious on bring this down very slowly and not causing it to drop like a rock, I feel muscle starting to get fuller and more of a pump as well, plus my rashes under armpits have gone away. I know e2 and I know what it feels like when its i target. I got a semi morning wood so I am just about there but I do not want to over shot it at all. Obviously that hcg5000 stuff is real because it causing my nuts to return to normal size. SO I am going to .25 mg arimidex m,w,f My urine streams are getting stronger and boobs are not hurting as bad and I feel more mentally focused. As to supplementng or cycle off DHEA I already proved that fact in my case it dropped from 393 down to 100 in matter of 2 weeks. People with adrenal issues need to supplement while others can cycle may be 5 days on 2 off and be fine, but people on TRT have to be very particular specific in there dosage because as you know it can cause a cascade event. But its going to be interesting to see if my free t are off the rocker or did they drop like a rock from stopping the deracrine. If they are still elevated then that is a very good sign that the DIM does really do a good job of increasing free testosterone. IF they dropped like a rock then it was the dermacrine that was doing it..So over all feeling better. Its just going to take a while to get this e2 in check and keep it there, but hopeful by staiblizing the cell membrae and flood ing my body with EFA;s I should be able to rebalance the proper composition and help return body back to homostasis. I am very aware of flax seeds and also I tend to use hemp seed fiber and it does the same thing with out causing possible increase in estrogen in man. I am also going to be looking into doing a new glucose tolerance test which has not been done for 2 years to see what is going on. I orered the RBC fatty acid test and will be doing the iodine urine and estrogen metabolism test again as well to check up on statis of that. I am going to pull my self back together so I can get on life and stop being sick all the time. For the past 6 months I have been in a vicious rollercoster ride and all varaibles kept identical except for the hcg that I would let hcg go for some time 2 months and not get a fresh bottle and blood test for e2 would be all over the place and could never get stable. While I got this problem fixed I will take hcg for no longer then 25 days and blood test will be done according to about with in 2 weeks of a fresh bottle being crack so there are no more rollercoaster rides because I am sick of this shit for past year almost and never being told this.

Dr. John Crisler

12-16-2007, 03:36 PM

Thank goodness you got this thing out of my Forum.

LOL

hardasnails1973

12-16-2007, 04:06 PM

I'm know i am not worthy, but there will be alot of revelaing information in near future..

hardasnails1973

12-17-2007, 08:39 AM

Today I am feeling really good, my mind is clearer and have alot more nergy for some reason. In stead of getting up at 9 pm I was up at 6 am and raring to go. I think finally I am starting to dial in this e2 pretty good now and from working together with my clinets with conjunction with there drs I am starting to get the hang of things so to speak. One freind that went to shippen 3 months ago was very dissatified, but is now getting morning wood that was even hurting him in the morning when he gets up. After being discourage by many endos saying that there is no such thing as estrogen in males. I told him He had all the tools availbale so l ooked at his blood test and I showed him Dr johns protocol and said what we got to loose. So given the fact that his e2 66 and tt was 595. I suggested him to load 1 mgs adex for 2 days then back it down to .25 and give it a good 10 days and do not get impatient. Just other day he called at day 8 he called me at 7 am and told me that "it's back ". I was like WTF you talking about and then it dawned on me. Other day he called and actually went to the gym first time in year because he finally had the energy..Do not tjhank me thank me finding dr johns protocol ..

JanSz

12-17-2007, 11:42 AM

As you can see i just can not shake this e2 ...

Why do not you do your self a favor, do these at Genova Diagnostics:

NutriEval
EstroEssence
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In UK when they do NutriEval for extra $50, they also recomend
FACTestTM (ALL01)

ALL01 Food Allergy Cellular Test (FACTestTM): Food intolerance can be an important factor in many acute and chronic conditions, producing delayed onset symptoms ranging from IBS, muscle and joint aches, fatigue, weight problems, hyperactivity, skin irritations and anxiety. The FACTestTM measures all types of immunological reactions to a total of 233 different foods, including common seasonings, colourings, additives and beverages from a single blood sample.
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They have a battery of alergy profiles, but ALL01 is good place to start.

hardasnails1973

12-17-2007, 11:52 AM

JanSz

12-18-2007, 07:57 PM

Doing estrogen test today from genova and also iodine loading at the same time. Next one is the RBC fatty acid test from genova but i am only going to check what I need same as estrogen test from genova

It is much more beneficial to do a whole test as recomended.

NutriEval
and
Estroessence

This is my advice now.

When I started testing I did not knew about NutriEval,
I new only about ONE.
So I ordered ONE and separately
Essential and Metabolic Fatty Acid Analysis (RBC)

When I post the reports you will see the difference in quality of reports.
ONE comes with a complete list of supplements
the other test I have to figure out my self.
I will be able to figure out what I am supposed to take but not how much.
I wil probably even miss on some supplements also.

Now I am waiting for a kit for
Elemental Analysis, Packed Erythrocytes
Another delay and less detailed reporting.

Do your self a favor, do complete test, it is worth it.

BigAk

12-18-2007, 08:20 PM

You guys are good...

hardasnails1973

12-19-2007, 10:08 AM

My erections are completely dead but the most likely cause was probably decreasing the subligual dhea from 50 mgs to 25 mgs. subligual dhea is much more absorbable by the body so one does not need as much as normal this would result in lowering of e2 which should be visible in the next blood test. After 2 weeks my dhea dropped from 393 to 100 with out dhea supplementation so how much dhea is needed still needs to be evaluted. If this change in dhea can lower my e2 this will be a big help in maintnaing estrogen levels naturally with out resorting to specific drugs when there is no need to. My whole goal is to mimize the amount of drugs I take over time to wearn may be my system my restart it self or be at the lowest doage possible to maximize health and side effects. I feel ok today my brain is alot sharper but constipation seems to be bad. I have started taking xtend during my wokr out and it contains artifical flavors that may not be the best for me and may be acting like an neurotoxins ..Going through lot of shit right now with person issues which I do not need, but I am not going to let it get me down and keep a positive attitude about everything. I am not going to stress over and what ever happens so be it.

Right now i have learned not to count on any one except my self and fukd sticking my neck out for other people. .I am the one who always getf uked in the end and blame for something that people have done to themselves Due to specific reasons I had to cancel my plan for holidays I am tired of people telling me this shit is all in my head when clinical test have proven other wise, but when they have problems they biactch and complain that oh i do this and that. I explained to them that if they full understand the complexityand the fact what I have can possible kill me if I have an episode or run out of meidcine for a day. I ran out of cortef for 2 days and by second day i was gasping for air like no other and actually started to black out, but they chalked it up oh stop it your doing it for attention.

BigAk

12-19-2007, 11:42 AM

HAN,

Sorry to hear about all your troubles bro... This must suck big time. But, my question remains; you're messing with so many drugs and symptoms, how do you for sure what's causing what??. This must be one hell of a task to deal with and such a huge trap of a balancing act.

Anyway.. I hope you figure it out soon bro...

hardasnails1973

12-19-2007, 12:29 PM

My goal is to take the bare minum needed to achieve optimal health. IF throuigh combination of manipulating one variable at a time and keep track of what is what then eventully it will all be ruled out. MY prinicple through specific test rule out what you are low or imbalnaced then replenish it through nutrient or mimimal supplementation vs shot gunning things and making matters even worse !!

Wise Guy

12-19-2007, 06:39 PM

HANS along with everything else may I suggest this? :D

http://www.write101.com/

Call me later this week

hardasnails1973

12-19-2007, 08:26 PM

see what estrogen imbalances can do HAH A

hardasnails1973

12-20-2007, 07:34 PM

Just other day I fnally got some real hcg and took 250 ius for last 3 weeks i was using second hand stuf because pharmacy was all out, but i did find a pharmacy after searching. I think the stuff i was taking before was junk and causing my e2 to drop like a rock resulting in the lost of erections. Not even the hottest chick can not get me going. Now after 2 days i got woodies from hell that hurt and shooting loads like Peter North. I was like DAMN finally feeling like my old self. MY balls start filling out which means the hcg is kicking in and my wanker was finally starting to hang lower then normal (i know TMI right) So things are progressing nicely, muscle are filling out getting fuller. Constipation is still hanging around but I think its will eventually level out as my e2 comes back up to nomral. i just hope i do not over shoot. It feels great having the man hood back to nomral, but how long will it last who knows ..

hardasnails1973

12-21-2007, 12:36 PM

I was feeling great last night. This morning wood was dead again. What I am think is happening is by simple changing the dhea subligual from 50 mgss a day to 25 mgs resulting in singificant drop of e2. In combination with 1/2 mgs of armidex a week the drop in Dhea it is causing e2 to possible go back in the normal range. With a higher shbg more estrogen May be required. As I stated before simple changes in one varaible at a time can result in reduction of unneccessary drugs. Question is is the drop in dhea going to cause my dhea levels to go down. This remains to scene ..

BigAk

12-21-2007, 04:02 PM

Do you expect to have morning wood everyday or else??? That's very unrealistic man... even if you were a 17 year old raging with testosterone... Could it be that you read too much into things????

hardasnails1973

12-21-2007, 07:21 PM

Even before I got sick I was hard in the moring EVERY MORNING because it was a pain in the ass taking a piss at that time !!

hardasnails1973

01-02-2008, 08:40 PM

Right now since adding in a specific supplement I know my bio and free T have nearly doubled from baseline and for 15 bucks a month thats dirt cheap, but I will not provide what supplement I am using because of our board rules. Right now my main goal is to reduce estrogens through increasing methyation of the body by using high dosages of folapro and also folinic acid, methy b-12, and dropping the TMG because its not doing a damn thing other then diverting the homocysteine to the improper pathways and decreasing the MS pathway. Increasing the folapro and folonic acid should help increase no2 out put and give my body more resistance from bacterial infections. I have added 4 whole raw eggs to increase my choline levels untill I get enough money to get some PC and do it right, Hopeully from my research increasing the folapro should help to increase choline and PC in the liver as well as increase my Acetelycholine levels increasing my gh out put and to bring back my dreams. Diet wise everything has been the same.

hardasnails1973

01-07-2008, 09:08 PM

I beleive that proper estrogen metabolism protocol should help my e2 levels restabilize and by flushing out the liver my e2 levels should stabilize

Current my e2 protocol is
300 mgs DIM BIO pro will increase it if my 2/16 ratio are not up to par
.25 mgs armidex m,th - do bring down e2 to 20--25
400 mgs same - add in methylation and COMT defieincy
2,000 mgs tmg - add in for extra methyl groups
1 cc methy b-12 m,th
5,000 mcgs of b-12 xubligual
2000 mgs calcium d glurate
8000 mcgs folinic acid.
healthy trinity probiotic 2 a day
50 mgs iodoral a day

hardasnails1973

01-10-2008, 01:14 PM

I have some bad news at the end of the month I lose my medical insurance because I no longer can afford 440 dollars a month. I have learned to put my faith in to many people and end up getting fuked in the end. All I can say is the world is always full of broken promises. When ever anything sounds to be good to be true then it mostly is not. It doesn not no matter how much BS some one tells you. Right now I am not in a very good situation. I have bills pilled high to ceiling and I do not know what to do. I am driving with out car insurance because I could not afford to pay the 800 bucks last month on top of all my other expenses. I swear can it get any worse? Just when I was starting to feel better and getting my self back on my feet this crap has to happen.

BigAk

01-10-2008, 02:01 PM

Sorry to hear about your financial trouble HAN... Been there myself.. I hope you figure out something soon.... But, what does that mean with regards to your TRT and medications??? Will you be paying out of pocket??? will you have enough money to afford TRT??? This is basically a prime example as to my old thread on Meso-Rx about the possibilities of having to abandon HRT for some reason...

Anyway... I hope things look up soon HAN... This sure is a bad situation to be in..

hardasnails1973

01-13-2008, 10:36 AM

Since I have been tinkering around with the methylation process by using the current protocol I feel subtle changes in my e2, like its starting to go down. Breast tenderness is reduced, erections are getting a little weaker so these may be bad signs, but more me they may be really good ones which are indicating what every I am doing is working. The more and more I look at it when increasing thryoid and adding in dhea and pregnelone only will increae ones need for EFAS greatly which Jansz has already proved. I am going to up from hempseed oil to 3 TBSP a day in order to help bring cell membrane back in check and increased raw eggs to 8 a day as well which are going to be mixed into my protein shakes manually.

JanSz

01-18-2008, 12:31 PM

JanSz

01-22-2008, 10:42 AM

HAN;

This is example on how naturopath designs his website

http://www.holisticnaturopath.com/services.htm

hardasnails1973

01-24-2008, 11:31 AM

hardasnails1973

01-24-2008, 01:44 PM

For people with low methyaltion GOOD READ
http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/cgi/reprint/51/4/593.pdf

JanSz

01-24-2008, 03:07 PM

If my hypothesis is correct I should be able to control my e2 naturally with out amridex. I did it before and I will do it again.

One time that i had my e2 to 22 with out armidex was on
100 mgs preg creame
50 mgs iodoral
250 mgs 100% reservatrol
1000 mgs calcium D
800 mgs same
5,000 mgs folininc acid
15000 mcg methy b-12. (going to go back to shots) 1 cc m,th

Going to give it another try and see how it goes I think the biggest help was pregenolone creame topical because cholesterol being so low my boyd has litte cholesterol to make hormones and being low thyroid only add insult to the problem

How much do you pay for Methyl-B12 shots?

I missplaced my bill, but I paid about $50 plus $20 shipping
for 2x5ml vial 1mg/1mL density, so 1cc shot=1000mcg

That was womens intntnl

I called my loca compounding pharmacy, $150

Could use less expensive source.

I do 1cc Tue and Fri so 10mL is good for 5 weeks, sucks.

hardasnails1973

01-25-2008, 11:18 AM

40 bucks
10 CC 10,000 per ml
Previous dr I went to that deals speicifically with methylation issues

hardasnails1973

04-16-2008, 09:51 PM

With a few slight changes in my diet and nutritional program my weight is now 210-215. My stregnth has gotten sickly insane

Current work outs
Shoulder
Shoulder dumbell presses 110lbs for 12 x2
side laterals dumbells 55 - 60-8 x2
frontals raise with pronation rotation 40lbs x 6-8x 2

Trceips
close grip bench 315 x10 x2
tricei psuh down rack +45 lbs plate for 8 x2
skull crashers barebell 145 x 6-8 x2

biceps
Hammer strength loaded all the way up with 3 plates for 6-8 x2
alterating dumbells 65 x 6-8x2
hammer curls 50 x 6-8 x2

quads
squats 455 6-8 x2 parell or below
leg presses 28 plates plus 200 lbs person on top 6-8 x 2
hacks 12 plates for 6-8 x2

hamstringes
lying leg curls rack for 6-8 x2
stif legged dead lifts 500 x 6-8 , 550-600 x 4 x1
standing leg curls 80 lbs x 6-8 (machine goes up to 100)

chest
bench 315 for 8-10 365 for 4-5
inclince dumbells 125 lbs for failure (need more heavier weight) 12-15
peck deck 200 x 6-8x2
incline hammer 4 plates each side for 6-8

back
lat pull downs rack plus 45 lbs plate for 6-8 x rack plus 45 on one side 25 om other for 6-8 reps.
bent over rows 365 for 6-8 reps or the back row machine 6 plates for 6-8 reps
one arm dumbell rows 140 x 12 (what a joke) need more weight
Close grip pull downs rack x 6-8 x2

Rear delts
reverse peck dec 160 6-8 reps x 2

Traps
shrugs 5 plates each side for 10 reps x2
upright dumbell rows 60lbs x 6-8 x2

Current TRT
60 mgs Biweekly
100 ius on days off the shot
armidex .5 mgs BIW - I feel that exercising has been driving my e2 down as well as swithcing to hcg 100 inbewtween shots
1.5 grains armour
25 mcgs t-3 split BID
10 mgs dhea 3 itmes a day

Supplements
multivitamin
coeyzmatic b complex
vitamin C
b-2
b-5
coenyzme q10
reservtrol 100% trans
calcium d gulurate
TMG
methy b-12 injections
P5P
magneisuim glycinate
calcum
digestive enyzme
niacin
ltyrtophan
tyrosine
theanine
gaba
No2 shot gun
bcass/ glutemine mix 50/50
hempseed oil
EPO
sam-e
zinc picolate

So strength is gaining nicely need ot just balance out copper and zinc and iron be good to go waiting on spectracell testing results to very what i already suspect