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JackBauer
12-11-2007, 08:45 AM
For Dr. Crisler - or any of his recent patients...

With respect to the updating that needs to be done to his TRT recipe..

I'm wondering what he generally is starting patients ou ton injectable with... Specifically is he starting them out at 100mg 1x a week?

Because I've seen other people suggest that 100mg is a large injection - preferring instead 2 injections a week.

I'm getting tested tomorrow after my 2nd week at 100mg a week, after upping the dose from 90mg the week before.

phatkid77
12-11-2007, 09:55 AM
im no patient of Dr. John, but 100mg is not all that large, i noticed no difference, nor in my blood work from either 100mg once, VS 50mg 2x week..

phats

edit...

but i think i am not the norm either, 100mg got me a 50ng jump in levels....garbage

pmgamer18
12-11-2007, 12:08 PM
In my case I do my shots every 3 days into my thing doing this I have a lot less problem with high E2. I was able to go down from 1mg. a day of Arimidex to .5mgs. every 3 days this is a lot of help. Did you compare your E2 levels from once a week to 2 x's a week in your E2.

im no patient of Dr. John, but 100mg is not all that large, i noticed no difference, nor in my blood work from either 100mg once, VS 50mg 2x week..

phats

edit...

but i think i am not the norm either, 100mg got me a 50ng jump in levels....garbage

bgnb
12-11-2007, 02:53 PM
actually, I believe he starts patients on gel first and if that is not
effective then to shots.

the problem with more frequent shots is that every 'invasion'
creates the possibility of damage ... needle hitting veins, nerves,
abcesses within the muscle, broken needles, infections etc.

not to mention its a pain in the butt!

you have to remember this is for the rest of your life!!!!!!!!

not like the bb's who do cycles and can eventually quit,
you will be having shots for the rest of your life.

It may be more effective, but it comes with a cost.

pmgamer18
12-11-2007, 04:25 PM
I would do gels at the drop of a hat but they don't work for me. My joints and muscles don't seam to get the testosterone from doing gels and I can hardly walk after a time on them.

I have been shooting 70mgs of Depo T every 3 days into my thigh using a small 27g 1ml x 1/2" lg. needle not problems. I also do 400 IU's of HCG the 2 days each in between my T shots so I do a shot everyday no problems.

actually, I believe he starts patients on gel first and if that is not
effective then to shots.

the problem with more frequent shots is that every 'invasion'
creates the possibility of damage ... needle hitting veins, nerves,
abcesses within the muscle, broken needles, infections etc.

not to mention its a pain in the butt!

you have to remember this is for the rest of your life!!!!!!!!

not like the bb's who do cycles and can eventually quit,
you will be having shots for the rest of your life.

It may be more effective, but it comes with a cost.

Dr. John Crisler
12-12-2007, 10:04 PM
I do my shots every 3 days into my thing .


Umm, Phil, you should not be injecting into your "thing".

I think we're on to something!

Charlie
12-13-2007, 09:15 AM
Umm, Phil, you should not be injecting into your "thing".

I think we're on to something!

I can't stop laughing,
Dr. John will make you feel good one way or the other.

pmgamer18
12-13-2007, 10:56 AM
Yes I did it again TYPO. Never inject into your thing I ment to say my thigh.:o

I can't stop laughing,
Dr. John will make you feel good one way or the other.

Jaydee
12-13-2007, 11:19 AM
...........lol!

Bill-NJ
12-13-2007, 11:24 AM
Yes I did it again TYPO. Never inject into your thing I ment to say my thigh.:o

Now you tell me .... Damn that hurt too!

The best typo yet! Nothing like a forum full of guys with hormonal problems to get some great typos

pmgamer18
12-13-2007, 01:11 PM
Yep there are days I get up in the morning and forget to take my head out of my butt.:D

Now you tell me .... Damn that hurt too!

The best typo yet! Nothing like a forum full of guys with hormonal problems to get some great typos

Bill-NJ
12-13-2007, 01:22 PM
Yep there are days I get up in the morning and forget to take my head out of my butt.:D


There used to be days I just didn't feel like taking my head out of my butt ... but they are fewer and fewer these days