HCG Thread

[PhoneMonkey]

Just wondering what other folks on a T/HCG protocol do when they travel. I’ve got an 8 day trip coming up here in a few weeks and I’m pondering my options. The morning I leave is the usual time for my T shot so that works out ok, but I can’t take HCG with me without wasting a whole big bunch of it (the vials I get are 10,000 units – need to figure out how to get smaller ones for sure).

Do they make HCG vials with 500 units of powder in them you can reconstitute on the road? That’d be handy… The place I’m ordering from certainly doesn’t offer them.

For this trip I was just going to skip my HCG and pick it up again when I get home – I’m assuming my boys can handle one week off without falling apart – how big a deal is that?

[JanSz]

Just wondering what other folks on a T/HCG protocol do when they travel. I’ve got an 8 day trip coming up here in a few weeks and I’m pondering my options. The morning I leave is the usual time for my T shot so that works out ok, but I can’t take HCG with me without wasting a whole big bunch of it (the vials I get are 10,000 units – need to figure out how to get smaller ones for sure).

Do they make HCG vials with 500 units of powder in them you can reconstitute on the road? That’d be handy… The place I’m ordering from certainly doesn’t offer them.

For this trip I was just going to skip my HCG and pick it up again when I get home – I’m assuming my boys can handle one week off without falling apart – how big a deal is that?

Have a stash of 500iu or 1000iu ampoules.
Do not skip HCG shots.
They sell tiny refrigirators, with room for about 3 vials.
I bought little bigger refrigirator, pain in the .....

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[anyman]

Quite clever how you did that and all. Don't have the room in my car for such a thing. Even in my wife's minivan it would be tough as the far rear is sunken down so the seats can be folded.

There HAS to be a better way then being tethered to an AC outlet or power supply. Really illustrates my fear of dependence. What the hell would one do if on a 2-3 week tour of foreign nations? Customs wouldn't be the only issue. How would one keep things cold across nations & with differing electrical standards?

[cpeil2]

If you're traveling by air, I have seen (on Amazon, I think) little pocket size cold packs that will hold two or three pre-loaded syringes and/or a couple of vials. They keep the medication cool while you travel, then you need to find refrigeration.

[chilln]

Just wondering what other folks on a T/HCG protocol do when they travel. I’ve got an 8 day trip coming up here in a few weeks and I’m pondering my options. The morning I leave is the usual time for my T shot so that works out ok, but I can’t take HCG with me without wasting a whole big bunch of it (the vials I get are 10,000 units – need to figure out how to get smaller ones for sure).

Do they make HCG vials with 500 units of powder in them you can reconstitute on the road? That’d be handy… The place I’m ordering from certainly doesn’t offer them.

For this trip I was just going to skip my HCG and pick it up again when I get home – I’m assuming my boys can handle one week off without falling apart – how big a deal is that?


You can buy insulin travel refrigerators which measure as large as a coke can.

Search online for "insulin box" and "insulin refrigerator" and "micro refrigerator".

You'll get a thousand hits and you can buy them online.

We're not allowed to post links to products which advertise products from unapproved suppliers. These suppliers aren't yet approved by Dr Crisler.

[PhoneMonkey]

You can buy insulin travel refrigerators which measure as large as a coke can.

Search online for "insulin box" and "insulin refrigerator" and "micro refrigerator".

You'll get a thousand hits and you can buy them online.

We're not allowed to post links to products which advertise products from unapproved suppliers. These suppliers aren't yet approved by Dr Crisler.

good deal - found several that look like they'll do the trick for around $20. We'll see what an international flight is like carying such a kit around... I'll just remember to bring all my scripts with me in case someone feels the need to probe...

thanks for the pointer.

[Greenie]

While not ideal, I think we can skip a week without things going totally haywire. Of course it is best if you can keep things steady, but the human body is designed to handle fluctuations in hormones etc. A week off will do no big harm. It may even be a good thing in a way. I know as with niacin and aspirin that it is good to break the routine now and then, as that makes them more effective. I would say to go on vacation and enjoy it and don't worry about HCG and explaining to security why you have needles and syringes with you....kind of embarrassing and who needs these hassles when you are going on vacation???

[krazy]

BUMP!

As someone who might be starting HCG one day (and wanting to spend an extended time roaming the world, too), I'd like to see a solution to this. Does anyone know if there are any 500iu powder? I just checked DrugStore.com and they stock only 10000IU powder.

This might be crazy but is there anywhere that can SANITARILY take out the powder, measure and divide it, and repackage it? (It's a longshot but compounding pharmacies, maybe?)

This might be EXTRA crazy but perhaps draw the powder out of the vial and store it in a syringe. Do the math and figure out how much powder to eject in order to get however many IU you need (the volume of the needle and syringe body top might throw off a little bit but, better than nothing). Eh? Anybody?

Worst case scenario, you could switch to a testosterone pellet implant. They last 3 months. That would be my fallback...

[garcia]

Hi all,
I'm going to ask my doc to prescribe me Hcg. In particular I'm interested in Ovidrel, which I believe comes in a 0.5ml pre-filled syringe and is equivalent to about 5,000 IU of uhCG.

Assuming I start off on 250 IU twice a week, that gives me 20 dosages. So my question is how do I divide up the 0.5ml into 20 dosages? Presumably I need to dilute it somehow? If so how do I do this in a sterile manor?

Many thanks,
garcia.

[cpeil2]

Hi all,
I'm going to ask my doc to prescribe me Hcg. In particular I'm interested in Ovidrel, which I believe comes in a 0.5ml pre-filled syringe and is equivalent to about 5,000 IU of uhCG.

Assuming I start off on 250 IU twice a week, that gives me 20 dosages. So my question is how do I divide up the 0.5ml into 20 dosages? Presumably I need to dilute it somehow? If so how do I do this in a sterile manor?

Many thanks,
garcia.


It's hard to say how much the pre-loaded .5 ml syringe of Ovdrel is equivalent to.

I dabbled with Ovidrel a couple of years ago. I was assuming the .5 ml was equivalent to 10000IU of urinary hCG. I diluted the .5 ml of Ovidrel in 9.5 ml of H2O and used it like reconstituted hCG - .1 ml = 100IU.

Equivalency estimates are all over the place though - 9000IU, 10000, 5000, 6500. Take your pick. If you're assuming that the .5 ml of Ovidrel is the equivalent of 5000IU of urinary hCG, dilute the Ovidrel w/ 4.5 ml of H20. Then, .1 ml would equal 100 IU.

At this point, there doesn't seem to be a reliable way of knowing how much hCG you are getting when you use Ovidrel. This hasn't stopped docs from using it for TRT, but I guess it would take some experimentation.

[medgerton]

Hi all,
I'm going to ask my doc to prescribe me Hcg. In particular I'm interested in Ovidrel, which I believe comes in a 0.5ml pre-filled syringe and is equivalent to about 5,000 IU of uhCG.

Assuming I start off on 250 IU twice a week, that gives me 20 dosages. So my question is how do I divide up the 0.5ml into 20 dosages? Presumably I need to dilute it somehow? If so how do I do this in a sterile manor?

Many thanks,
garcia.

This was posted a while back by someone using Ovidrel:

"Like many of you I have been out of HCG and the "boys" are shrinking up, all due to the HCG diet weight loss craze that has locked up all of the HCG. My doc has come up with an alternative. Ovidrel is a recombinant HCG, but it's only available as a 250 mcg in 1/2 ml of solution, single-use pen. The 250 mcg is equivalent to 10000 units of Novarel. So my doc prescribed a pen of Ovidrel and a vial of bacteriostatic water (30ml). I sucked out 20 ml, then another 1/2 ML, then shot the 1/2 ml Ovidrel into the vial. This leaves 10 ml in the vial (same as Novarel) with the equivalent dose of HCG. So now I just shoot this mixture just like I was the Novarel, the equivalent of 300 units 3 times a week."

[Temujin]

This was posted a while back by someone using Ovidrel:

"Like many of you I have been out of HCG and the "boys" are shrinking up, all due to the HCG diet weight loss craze that has locked up all of the HCG. My doc has come up with an alternative. Ovidrel is a recombinant HCG, but it's only available as a 250 mcg in 1/2 ml of solution, single-use pen. The 250 mcg is equivalent to 10000 units of Novarel. So my doc prescribed a pen of Ovidrel and a vial of bacteriostatic water (30ml). I sucked out 20 ml, then another 1/2 ML, then shot the 1/2 ml Ovidrel into the vial. This leaves 10 ml in the vial (same as Novarel) with the equivalent dose of HCG. So now I just shoot this mixture just like I was the Novarel, the equivalent of 300 units 3 times a week."

That was me that posted that, and I can report that I have been using Ovidrel in that same manner for over a year. My balls are bigger and firmer than they ever were on Novarel, so I'm sure the equivalency is at least 10000 units, not 5000. The 10 ml mixture lasts me almost 3 months, and works just as well down to the last drop (no expiration issues). The initial mixing is a little more complicated, but the consistency and results are worth it. Get a 20 ml syringe with a big needle on it for the mixing.

[JanSz]

That was me that posted that, and I can report that I have been using Ovidrel in that same manner for over a year. My balls are bigger and firmer than they ever were on Novarel, so I'm sure the equivalency is at least 10000 units, not 5000. The 10 ml mixture lasts me almost 3 months, and works just as well down to the last drop (no expiration issues). The initial mixing is a little more complicated, but the consistency and results are worth it. Get a 20 ml syringe with a big needle on it for the mixing.
http://www.fertilitylifelines.com/assets/pdfs/products/ovidrel/ovidrel_pi.pdf
The safety and efficacy of Ovidrel® 250 μg administered
subcutaneously versus 5,000 IU of an approved urinaryderived
hCG product administered intramuscularly were
assessed in a double-blind, randomized, multicenter
study in anovulatory infertile women (Study 8209) which
was conducted in 19 centers in Australia, Canada, Europe
and Israel.
The primary efficacy parameter in this single-cycle study
was the patient ovulation rate. 242 patients entered
the study, of whom 99 received Ovidrel® 250 μg. The
efficacy of Ovidrel® 250 μg was found to be clinically
and statistically equivalent to that of the approved
urinary-derived hCG product.
=================================
===================================

Absorption
Following subcutaneous administration of Ovidrel® 250
μg, maximum serum concentration (121 ± 44 IU/L) is
reached after approximately 12 to 24 hours. The mean
absolute bioavailability of Ovidrel® following a single
subcutaneous injection to healthy female volunteers is
about 40%.

Distribution
Following intravenous administration of Ovidrel® 250 μg
to healthy down-regulated female volunteers, the serum
profile of hCG is described by a two-compartment model
with an initial half-life of 4.5 ± 0.5 hours. The volume
of the central compartment is 3.0 ± 0.5 L and the steady
state volume of distribution is 5.9 ± 1.0 L.

Metabolism/Excretion
Following subcutaneous administration of Ovidrel®, hCG
is eliminated from the body with a mean terminal halflife
of about 29 ± 6 hours. After intravenous
administration of Ovidrel® 250 μg to healthy downregulated
females, the mean terminal half-life is 26.5 ±
2.5 hours and the total body clearance is 0.29 ± 0.04
L/h. One-tenth of the dose is excreted in the urine.

Pharmacodynamics
In female subjects on oral contraception after an initial
latency period, Ovidrel® induced a clear increase in
androstenedione serum levels by 24 hours after dosing.
Pharmacodynamic studies in females determined that
the relationship of Ovidrel® pharmacokinetics to
pharmacologic effect of Ovidrel® are complex and vary
with the pharmacodynamic marker examined. In general
pharmacologic effects are not proportional to exposure
and in some cases appear to be near maximal at a 250
μg dose.

[cpeil2]

http://www.fertilitylifelines.com/assets/pdfs/products/ovidrel/ovidrel_pi.pdf
The safety and efficacy of Ovidrel® 250 μg administered
subcutaneously versus 5,000 IU of an approved urinaryderived
hCG product administered intramuscularly were
assessed in a double-blind, randomized, multicenter
study in anovulatory infertile women (Study 8209) which
was conducted in 19 centers in Australia, Canada, Europe
and Israel.
The primary efficacy parameter in this single-cycle study
was the patient ovulation rate. 242 patients entered
the study, of whom 99 received Ovidrel® 250 μg. The
efficacy of Ovidrel® 250 μg was found to be clinically
and statistically equivalent to that of the approved
urinary-derived hCG product.
=================================
===================================

Absorption
Following subcutaneous administration of Ovidrel® 250
μg, maximum serum concentration (121 ± 44 IU/L) is
reached after approximately 12 to 24 hours. The mean
absolute bioavailability of Ovidrel® following a single
subcutaneous injection to healthy female volunteers is
about 40%.

Distribution
Following intravenous administration of Ovidrel® 250 μg
to healthy down-regulated female volunteers, the serum
profile of hCG is described by a two-compartment model
with an initial half-life of 4.5 ± 0.5 hours. The volume
of the central compartment is 3.0 ± 0.5 L and the steady
state volume of distribution is 5.9 ± 1.0 L.

Metabolism/Excretion
Following subcutaneous administration of Ovidrel®, hCG
is eliminated from the body with a mean terminal halflife
of about 29 ± 6 hours. After intravenous
administration of Ovidrel® 250 μg to healthy downregulated
females, the mean terminal half-life is 26.5 ±
2.5 hours and the total body clearance is 0.29 ± 0.04
L/h. One-tenth of the dose is excreted in the urine.

Pharmacodynamics
In female subjects on oral contraception after an initial
latency period, Ovidrel® induced a clear increase in
androstenedione serum levels by 24 hours after dosing.
Pharmacodynamic studies in females determined that
the relationship of Ovidrel® pharmacokinetics to
pharmacologic effect of Ovidrel® are complex and vary
with the pharmacodynamic marker examined. In general
pharmacologic effects are not proportional to exposure
and in some cases appear to be near maximal at a 250
μg dose.


The study does not say that 250 mcg. of Ovidrel is equivalent to 5000 IU hCG. It only says that 250 mcg. Ovidrel was compared to 5000 IU hCG.

[chilln]

Hi all,
I'm going to ask my doc to prescribe me Hcg. In particular I'm interested in Ovidrel, which I believe comes in a 0.5ml pre-filled syringe and is equivalent to about 5,000 IU of uhCG.

Assuming I start off on 250 IU twice a week, that gives me 20 dosages. So my question is how do I divide up the 0.5ml into 20 dosages? Presumably I need to dilute it somehow? If so how do I do this in a sterile manor?

Many thanks,
garcia.


To ensure your Ovidrel remains potent right up to the last drop, you should store it in the coldest part fo your fridge. Ie: do not store it on the fridge door.

And when I'm doing HCG monotheraoy, I use one Ovidrel syringe (0.5mL) in a period of 30 days.

The Ovidrel syringe actually contains 6000 "pure" IU.. I inject 200 IU of recombinant HCG per day.

I'm not interested in Ovidrel's equivalence to urinary derived HCG. The two products are worlds apart. The comparison is meaningless.

[cpeil2]

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I'm not interested in Ovidrel's equivalence to urinary derived HCG. The two products are worlds apart. The comparison is meaningless.


Good point. "IU" is a measure of activity rather than absolute quantity.

[Temujin]

To ensure your Ovidrel remains potent right up to the last drop, you should store it in the coldest part fo your fridge. Ie: do not store it on the fridge door.

And when I'm doing HCG monotheraoy, I use one Ovidrel syringe (0.5mL) in a period of 30 days.

The Ovidrel syringe actually contains 6000 "pure" IU.. I inject 200 IU of recombinant HCG per day.

I'm not interested in Ovidrel's equivalence to urinary derived HCG. The two products are worlds apart. The comparison is meaningless.

Agreed. The stuff flat out works, and it's readily available. That's all I care about.

[JanSz]

[/B]

Agreed. The stuff flat out works, and it's readily available. That's all I care about.

How much it cost (without insurance)?

Is it available at a Walgreens or only from fertility outfits?

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http://www.google.com/products?q=buy+Ovidrel&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=BvPUSaebOJPvlQey7tDgDA&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
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Ovidrel
RX is required to purchase this item.
Add to Shopping List $110.00
Moore Medical LLC

Ovidrel, 1 250mcg/0.5ml syringes $87.95
Drugstore.com

ovidrel 250mcg/0.5ml syrg 1 disp syringe. $87.15
RxUSA NY State Pharmacy

Ovidrel 250 Mcg Pfs $81.92.
KABS Pharmacy

$199.28 with tax and shipping
KEENZO ELECTRONICS

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[garcia]

Thanks for the replies everyone - they have been very helpful.

I think I'm going to go with Temujin's method as it seems to be the simplest. I'll get a 30ml vial of bacteriostatic water, remove 20ml, then another 1/2 ml then mix in the Ovidrel.

Chilln, thanks for the tip about the fridge. I'll make sure to keep it in the coolest part.

Many thanks!
garcia.

[cpeil2]

How much it cost (without insurance)?

Is it available at a Walgreens or only from fertility outfits?

================================================== ======
http://www.google.com/products?q=buy+Ovidrel&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=BvPUSaebOJPvlQey7tDgDA&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
-----------------------------------
Ovidrel
RX is required to purchase this item.
Add to Shopping List $110.00
Moore Medical LLC

Ovidrel, 1 250mcg/0.5ml syringes $87.95
Drugstore.com

ovidrel 250mcg/0.5ml syrg 1 disp syringe. $87.15
RxUSA NY State Pharmacy

Ovidrel 250 Mcg Pfs $81.92.
KABS Pharmacy

$199.28 with tax and shipping
KEENZO ELECTRONICS

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I got mine from Walgreen's - about $70.00.

[medgerton]

$199.28 with tax and shipping
KEENZO ELECTRONICS

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That is a strange place to be selling Ovidrel.

I guess Keenzo Electronics is diversifing in this tough economy.

If they can get $199.28 for Ovidrel more power to them.

[Temujin]

How much it cost (without insurance)?

Is it available at a Walgreens or only from fertility outfits?

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My insurance covers it. I'm not sure what the cost would be without the coverage. It should be available at any drugstore. I get it at the local pharmacy, and they don't seem to have to special order it.

[cpeil2]

My insurance covers it. I'm not sure what the cost would be without the coverage. It should be available at any drugstore. I get it at the local pharmacy, and they don't seem to have to special order it.


Where I live, (San Francisco) not all the Walgreens stores had it. They could have ordered it, but in order to get the 'script filled on the spot, I had to go to a Walgreens that was in the part of town where most of the hospitals and medical office buildings are. This particular Walgreens even did custom compounding.

[Temujin]

Thanks for the replies everyone - they have been very helpful.

I think I'm going to go with Temujin's method as it seems to be the simplest. I'll get a 30ml vial of bacteriostatic water, remove 20ml, then another 1/2 ml then mix in the Ovidrel.

Chilln, thanks for the tip about the fridge. I'll make sure to keep it in the coolest part.

Many thanks!
garcia.

An update on that mixing procedure. The vials of bacteriostatic water contain somewhat more than 30 ml. To be accurate, suck all of the water out, then inject 9 1/2 ml back in.

[living2die]

I would like to know why the patient leaflet handout, it states that Ovidrel should be discarded after 30 days of non-refrigeration. Is this because Ovidrel and r HCG in general loses its potency, like urine derived HCG ? Or is because there is an increased risk of contamination, or both?


[/B]

Agreed. The stuff flat out works, and it's readily available. That's all I care about.

[chilln]

I would like to know why the patient leaflet handout, it states that Ovidrel should be discarded after 30 days of non-refrigeration. Is this because Ovidrel and r HCG in general loses its potency, like urine derived HCG ? Or is because there is an increased risk of contamination, or both?

Who cares - if you forget to refrigerate your Ovidrel for 30 days it will be useless.

You really absolutely do need to refrigerate your Ovidrel. The colder the better, and the longer your Ovidrel will last, but not frozen because freezing wrecks Ovidrel.

[ptm82379]

chilln how do you mix yours?

Im not on monotherapy but I am adding ovidrel to my TRT

My doc did say that it would be more frequent than 2X per week but not sure how frequent yet so how I mix it determines dosage and longevity and how much I need to ask for

[maxzax]

Hi Guys,

I'd like to know if you could help me with how to mix and use HCG.

My HCG is prescribed by my local doctor he was willing to let me try it after I gave him some of Dr. J's information on it, but he's never heard of HCG until I brought it up, so I can't ask him for help. And the pharmacy I bought it from told me to ask my doctor as well, so they don't have experience with it as well.

Anyways, I have a box that says 10,000 USP Units of HCG

Inside the box there are 2 Bottles:

1 Bottle is the water 10ML of Sterile Diluent of Chorionic Gonadotropin
1 Bottle is powder Chorionic Gonadotropin 10,000 USP Units

Do I withdraw the entire 10 ML of the water (Sterile Diluent) and slowly inject the water into the bottle of Powder

I'm looking at having a shot of 200 iUs every other day

With a 1 ML needle, do I withdraw 0.2 ML from the HCG?

Does this sound right?

Thanks!

[crazycrew]

Hi Guys,

I'd like to know if you could help me with how to mix and use HCG.

My HCG is prescribed by my local doctor he was willing to let me try it after I gave him some of Dr. J's information on it, but he's never heard of HCG until I brought it up, so I can't ask him for help. And the pharmacy I bought it from told me to ask my doctor as well, so they don't have experience with it as well.

Anyways, I have a box that says 10,000 USP Units of HCG

Inside the box there are 2 Bottles:

1 Bottle is the water 10ML of Sterile Diluent of Chorionic Gonadotropin
1 Bottle is powder Chorionic Gonadotropin 10,000 USP Units

Do I withdraw the entire 10 ML of the water (Sterile Diluent) and slowly inject the water into the bottle of Powder
I'm looking at having a shot of 200 iUs every other day

With a 1 ML needle, do I withdraw 0.2 ML from the HCG?

Does this sound right?

Thanks!

No do not mix the entire vial of water I mix 4.4 ML to 11000 units so yours will be less. Can you list the entire instructions from the script box?

[crazycrew]

Here is a formula for mixing HCG that JanZ gave me.


if you mixed it with 4.4ml water that becomes 10000/4.4=2273iu/cc=22.7iu/unit

so 10 units will be worth of 227iu/shot

[thenxtgrt1]

I transfer 10 cc's of water to the vial with the powder. I use a 3 ML 22gauge 1.5 in syringe to withdraw the water and put into the powder. 1 ML = 1 CC. This gives me 10,000 iu of HCG in 10 cc's. Each 1 cc contains 1,000 iu of HCg. If using an insulin syringe, each unit equals 10 iu of hcg. So 200 iu of HCG is 20 units on the syringe.

[TryingToFix]

APP brand directions: Withdraw sterile air from lyophilized vial and inject into diluent vial. Remove 10mL from diluent vial and add to lyophilized vial; agitate gently until solution is complete.

[Bulldog]

Here is a formula for mixing HCG that JanZ gave me.


if you mixed it with 4.4ml water that becomes 10000/4.4=2273iu/cc=22.7iu/unit

so 10 units will be worth of 227iu/shot

Is the idea of mixing with less water just so you are injecting less volume to get the same dose? Does that affect how long it will keep before going bad? Does it affect how it is absorbed by the the body or affect half life in any way?

4.4 ml of water seems like a good amount to mix or 11,000iu because that would give you an even 2,500iu/cc. But I would think you would want to use 5ml of water for 10,000ml so that you would get an even 2,000iu/cc which should make it easy to get the 200iu he needs per shot.

[pcgizzmo]

Mix 5 ml of water w/your 10,000 iu vial of HCG and each whole # on your insuling syringe will be 200 iu.

Figure it this way - number of iu's of hcg divided by amount of water you are adding divided by 10.

So to get your 200 per iu

10,000 / 5.0/ 10 = 200 per every whole humber on your insuling syringe.


Paul

[maxzax]

Mix 5 ml of water w/your 10,000 iu vial of HCG and each whole # on your insuling syringe will be 200 iu.

Figure it this way - number of iu's of hcg divided by amount of water you are adding divided by 10.

So to get your 200 per iu

10,000 / 5.0/ 10 = 200 per every whole humber on your insuling syringe.


Paul

It's a 1 ML syringe.

And it's labeled
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1.0

so after mixing the 10,000 iU HCG Powder with 5ML of the solution.

I shot 0.1 ML of the 1ML syringe? That 0.1 ML would equal 200 iU per shot, if I'm understanding correctly.

Is that correct?

Thanks!

Thanks for the responses guys I need to re-read some of the above answers you guys gave me.

[crazycrew]

It's a 1 ML syringe.

And it's labeled
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
0.9
1.0

so after mixing the 10,000 iU HCG Powder with 5ML of the solution.

I shot 0.1 ML of the 1ML syringe? That 0.1 ML would equal 200 iU per shot, if I'm understanding correctly.

Is that correct?

Thanks!

Thanks for the responses guys I need to re-read some of the above answers you guys gave me.

That is correct, and 200iu EOD would calculate to 200iu X 7 divided by 2 equals 700ui per week if my math is correct.

[allenc74]

After mixing the 10ml solution how much would I draw up for a 250iu injection?

[JanSz]

chilln how do you mix yours?

Im not on monotherapy but I am adding ovidrel to my TRT

My doc did say that it would be more frequent than 2X per week but not sure how frequent yet so how I mix it determines dosage and longevity and how much I need to ask for

1 Week Ago
http://musclechatroom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48255&postcount%20=11

I mix my 0.5 mL (250 mcg) Ovidrel with 2.5 mL water.

Each day I inject 0.08 mL (6.7 mcg) of the combined mixture. It lasts around 37 days.

Plus I also apply a little transdermal T (testosterone) gel / cream daily.

I get most of my T boost from HCG, but not all. Like Dr Crisler, I also believe that we do need daily variability in our T levels.

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05-20-2009
http://musclechatroom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40867&postcount%20=9


300 IU every third day amounts to 100 IU per day.

When I'm not supplementing with GH, I supplement with only ovidrel HCG predominantly, and some T gel and a little arimidex, ie:

220IU of Ovidrel daily
80mg compounded T gel daily (plus extra 40mg on some nights I may get lucky)
0.2mg arimidex daily

On that dose my total and bioavail T hovers close to the top of the reference range (rarely over it, usually under it).

On that dose my SHBG hovers around mid-way in the reference range.

On that dose my E2 hovers around the top of the male ultrasensitive reference range.

On that schedule I don't get spontaneous erections during the day (I find them annoying) and I occasionally get morning wood, but I can get an erection on demand, and hold it for around 30 minutes, around 9 nights out of 10.

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Now anecdotally 6000IU of Ovidrel has the same efficacy as around 10000 IU of urinary HCG.

Ie: My 220 IU of Ovidrel daily has the same efficacy as around 350 IU of urinary derived HCG daily.

Even if your testicles respond better to HCG better than do mine, I still doubt that you would be able to maintain high total T (per the reference range) on your current schedule.

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On an E3D schedule, your T will be highest the day after your injection, so if you measure your T on the day after your injection, then you should measure your highest T.

On an E3D schedule, if you measure T on the day of your HCG injection, or 2 days after your injection, then you should measure your lowest T.

[allenc74]

It seams like .1 ml is such a small dose. Could you mix it with more water and take a larger injection? Or is it even necessary? What effect will this have?

[chilln]

Thanks JanSz.

[Bulldog]

It seams like .1 ml is such a small dose. Could you mix it with more water and take a larger injection? Or is it even necessary? What effect will this have?

Why would you want to do that?

[crazycrew]

It seams like .1 ml is such a small dose. Could you mix it with more water and take a larger injection? Or is it even necessary? What effect will this have?

You could also take a pint of scotch and mix it with a couple of quarts of water.

[JanSz]

You could also take a pint of scotch and mix it with a couple of quarts of water.

Whatever he does,
as long as he does not adulterate

Dewers Scotch Whiskey

.

[Temujin]

After mixing the 10ml solution how much would I draw up for a 250iu injection?

If you have mixed a 10 ml solution of 10,000 iu of HCG (or 250 mcg of Ovidrel, which is equivalent, although some may argue that point), you would shoot 25 units in an insulin syringe to get 250 iu.

[allenc74]

My doc wrote me a script for ovidrel. She also included in this scrip the water to mix it with. Everything was fine till the pharmacy declined to fill it because they had never heard of diluting it down. They said it could only be used as a one time injection. They also contacted the manufacture and they could not comment on how it would work when diluted.


So basically I'm back at square one with no HCG.

Any recommendations?

[Ev_nyc]

My compounding pharmacy sent my hCG with only bac water. Is this normal?

I've always used a solvent first, such as NaCL, and then used bac water just to dilute.

[Ev_nyc]

My doc wrote me a script for ovidrel. She also included in this scrip the water to mix it with. Everything was fine till the pharmacy declined to fill it because they had never heard of diluting it down. They said it could only be used as a one time injection. They also contacted the manufacture and they could not comment on how it would work when diluted.


So basically I'm back at square one with no HCG.

Any recommendations?


Wow, unlucky. Declining to fill because they don't agree with your Dr's orders?

Looks like you have to play their game. Get it filled again as a one time inject (even if you have to ask your Dr for a new script) and then just purchase some solvent and bacteriostatic water online.

[JanSz]

My doc wrote me a script for ovidrel. She also included in this scrip the water to mix it with. Everything was fine till the pharmacy declined to fill it because they had never heard of diluting it down. They said it could only be used as a one time injection. They also contacted the manufacture and they could not comment on how it would work when diluted.


So basically I'm back at square one with no HCG.

Any recommendations?

No sweat.

Get the Ovidrel in one pharmacy

stop talking to pharmacist unless about weather.

buy BW in another pharmacy or over internet

It may also be dangerous talking to much while filling Arimidex script.

[pmgamer18]

If it dose not say bacteriostatic water and the water that came with it is just sterael wate by some Bac. water or it will not keep in the firdge. Here is how I mix mine the powder mixed says it is 10,000 IU's with 10 mls. of Bac. water. Read this cut and paste.
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BTW...the water you need to reconstitute HCG is bacteriostatic water.

Calculating HCG:

There isn't a specific ratio of cc/ml to IU. It depends on how you mix it. It's quite simple. If you dillute 5,000 IUs HCG with 5ml (cc) solvent, the end result is 1,000 IUs per ml (cc). Divide the same 5,000 IUs with 10 ml (cc) and the end result is 500 IUs per ml (cc). Therefore, a large part depends on the concentration of HCG per ampoule or vial.

Mixing HCG:
(Items needed: bacwater h20 and some 5ml emty vials-get****).

1) Open hcg/amp with powder
2) Use a syringe to pull out 1cc of BacWater and put in amp with HCG
3) It will instantly dissolve
4) Then Use an empty 5ml vial (sterile and sealed) put 4ml of Bacwater in the vial
5) Take syringe and ad the mixed HCG solution to the 5ml vial
6) Shake it and you have 5000IU's of HCG
7) Than draw 1cc and inject
8) put the rest in the refrigerator

•The reason your discarding the amp of solvent cause its made for 1 times use and you wouldn’t be able to refrigerate it and use it a week later again. That’s why you need Bac H2o.
•The most common side affect associated with HCG is gynecomastia. The concurrent intake of Nolvadex with HCG prevents gynecomastia, prevents/minimizes leydig cell desensitization and contiues the stimulation of pituitary LH once HCG has been discontinued.
•HCG will last approximately 30 days if mixed with Bac h2o instead of the solvent it comes with.
•You can keep the mixed hcg in vial or pins In the fridge till use

[ptm82379]

Does the BH20 need to be new or can it be reused from say the previos month? Can it go bad ?

[Bulldog]

My doc wrote me a script for ovidrel. She also included in this scrip the water to mix it with. Everything was fine till the pharmacy declined to fill it because they had never heard of diluting it down. They said it could only be used as a one time injection. They also contacted the manufacture and they could not comment on how it would work when diluted.


So basically I'm back at square one with no HCG.

Any recommendations?

I would ask the pharmacist to call your doctor to discuss it so that he/she will understand why the doctor is prescribing it the way he is.

[allenc74]

No sweat.

Get the Ovidrel in one pharmacy

stop talking to pharmacist unless about weather.

buy BW in another pharmacy or over internet

It may also be dangerous talking to much while filling Arimidex script.

The pharmacy called me after they called the nurse at my docs office. I think the pharmacist got spooked when the manufacture said that they couldn't say yes or no. I'm not sure what they told my doctor, but she says she now needs to look into this more.

On a slightly different note: Has anybody done the virtual visits with Dr. Crisler? I think this may be my only option since I live 700 miles away. My doc has no problem overseeing my protocol if he were to set it up.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

[Bulldog]

The pharmacy called me after they called the nurse at my docs office. I think the pharmacist got spooked when the manufacture said that they couldn't say yes or no. I'm not sure what they told my doctor, but she says she now needs to look into this more.

On a slightly different note: Has anybody done the virtual visits with Dr. Crisler? I think this may be my only option since I live 700 miles away. My doc has no problem overseeing my protocol if he were to set it up.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

I do VOV's. They work very well. I have no complaints.

[xxOz]

Interesting, I was prescribed HCG by Dr. John last week and I had trouble getting it from my pharmacist also. His concern was that the Novarol said 'Intramuscular Only' and my scrip said SubQ.

It was Friday and he was not able to reach the Dr's office. So I printed out Dr. John's Recipe for success and HCG Update, took it to the pharmacy and said, "The doc knows what he is doing, please give it to me. I have more tests in 5 weeks and if I do not get it for this weekend it is going to throw all the testing off." He finally gave it up...

So far I think my wife likes the HCG. Yes my wife... For some reason I have been a bit more interested in special time the last few days. :sifone:

Oh, the VoVs work great. Sometimes the appointments are not right on time, but the flexibility to just take the appointment on my cell phone after walking into a private area is very convenient. You will have to go see him in person for the first appointment I think.

[chilln]

The pharmacy called me after they called the nurse at my docs office. I think the pharmacist got spooked when the manufacture said that they couldn't say yes or no. I'm not sure what they told my doctor, but she says she now needs to look into this more.

On a slightly different note: Has anybody done the virtual visits with Dr. Crisler? I think this may be my only option since I live 700 miles away. My doc has no problem overseeing my protocol if he were to set it up.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Geographically what locale are you in ?

Perhaps we can suggest a medical professional adviser in your area who understands more than your current medical professional adviser.

[allenc74]

Geographically what locale are you in ?

Perhaps we can suggest a medical professional adviser in your area who understands more than your current medical professional adviser.

I live just north of Charlotte, NC

[Bulldog]

After drawing the HCG from the vial into the syringe are you supposed to let it sit for a while so that the solution gets to room temperature before you inject it or do you just inject it while it is cold from the fridge?

[pmgamer18]

No don't do the it will go bad sooner I just take it out of the fridge and draw my dose and shoot. Then put it back in the fridge. I wake at 5 am every morning so I do my shots then I am retired, I then go back to bed and when I get up at 8am I am feeling dam good and sex at this time after HCG is great.

[JanSz]

Interesting, I was prescribed HCG by Dr. John last week and I had trouble getting it from my pharmacist also. His concern was that the Novarol said 'Intramuscular Only' and my scrip said SubQ.

It was Friday and he was not able to reach the Dr's office. So I printed out Dr. John's Recipe for success and HCG Update, took it to the pharmacy and said, "The doc knows what he is doing, please give it to me. I have more tests in 5 weeks and if I do not get it for this weekend it is going to throw all the testing off." He finally gave it up...

So far I think my wife likes the HCG. Yes my wife... For some reason I have been a bit more interested in special time the last few days. :sifone:

Oh, the VoVs work great. Sometimes the appointments are not right on time, but the flexibility to just take the appointment on my cell phone after walking into a private area is very convenient. You will have to go see him in person for the first appointment I think.

I get much better mileage from scripts that have only minimum information just to get me the medicine.

Best works:

Name of medicine
size of vial, pills, etc
amount (number of vials or number of pills) required for 30 days or 90 days or some time period.
number of refills
and then the "USE AS DIRECTED"

That term "USE AS DIRECTED"
is vague enough to stop your pharmacist from guessing or his helper from looking for diversion during slow day.
.
.

[Bulldog]

What do you do with your syringes/needles when you are done with them while you are traveling? I'm guessing that carrying a sharps container around with you would not be very convenient.

[howard]

What do you do with your syringes/needles when you are done with them while you are traveling? I'm guessing that carrying a sharps container around with you would not be very convenient.

I cover the needle with the original cap, remove the plunger, and put both in a separate ziplock bag that I carry till I get home, when I put the needles into my sharps container. Easier to get through airport security that way, and takes much less room than a sharps container.

[smitty4]

I cover the needle with the original cap, remove the plunger, and put both in a separate ziplock bag that I carry till I get home, when I put the needles into my sharps container. Easier to get through airport security that way, and takes much less room than a sharps container.

I do the same thing, but I don't pull the plungers. What is the advanage of doing that Howard?

[Willje]

I read the FAQ's at the Frio Wallet site.Its minimum temp. is 60F. Would that be cool enough to maintain HCG?

[cpeil2]

I use hCG daily. When traveling, I have skipped the shots for up to five days without ill effect.

[gman]

I have gone 14 days with no HCG, did them as scheduled the week before our vacation, then missed them while on the vacation 2 weeks running (day 1 and 2 and 9 and 10 of the vacation), also have had no T shot for 10 days (I did a half dose the day before we left).

I feel the same as usual. Tomorrow will be back to normal, T shot, then another 5 days until HCG, so no HCG for 21 days.

[Bulldog]

No don't do the it will go bad sooner I just take it out of the fridge and draw my dose and shoot. Then put it back in the fridge. I wake at 5 am every morning so I do my shots then I am retired, I then go back to bed and when I get up at 8am I am feeling dam good and sex at this time after HCG is great.

Once you inject it, it is going to increase to body temp anyhow isn't it? I don't see how a few min. to warm up before injection would hurt it.

Doesn't the cold solution cause some discomfort when it is injected?

[crazycrew]

Once you inject it, it is going to increase to body temp anyhow isn't it? I don't see how a few min. to warm up before injection would hurt it.

Doesn't the cold solution cause some discomfort when it is injected?

I always hold it in my hand for a couple of minutes to let it warm

[thenxtgrt1]

Once you inject it, it is going to increase to body temp anyhow isn't it? I don't see how a few min. to warm up before injection would hurt it.

Doesn't the cold solution cause some discomfort when it is injected?

Cold solution has never caused me any discomfort. I don't really think it's matter if you left it out for a few minutes.

[andrenym]

Why not hcg everyday or every other day when taking test cyp for trt? I currently take it on 5th and sixth day after injection and wonder doesnt lh drop 48hrs after injection? Why not keep numbers steady? Someone please explain, thx

[damitchell2222]

I just got back from my endo appointment. I am currently on 200mg a week of test cyp I inject 100mg on Monday and 100mg on Tuesday. I take Chrysin and Zinc to keep my estrogen in check. My doctor says my testosterone levels are now at the perfect spot. I think he said I was 94.1 and the top of the range is 95. I inquired to him about HCG because I know Dr. Chrisler is a big fan. He says the only reason I may need it is if I want to have kids because it brings up your sperm count. I am just wondering if I should go ahead and tell him I want to have kids so he can prescribe me some HCG to go along with my testosterone regime?

[JanSz]

I just got back from my endo appointment. I am currently on 200mg a week of test cyp I inject 100mg on Monday and 100mg on Tuesday. I take Chrysin and Zinc to keep my estrogen in check. My doctor says my testosterone levels are now at the perfect spot. I think he said I was 94.1 and the top of the range is 95. I inquired to him about HCG because I know Dr. Chrisler is a big fan. He says the only reason I may need it is if I want to have kids because it brings up your sperm count. I am just wondering if I should go ahead and tell him I want to have kids so he can prescribe me some HCG to go along with my testosterone regime?

200mg/week is a large dose most of the time, not always.

Post your (complete) test results.

..

[Bulldog]

I just got back from my endo appointment. I am currently on 200mg a week of test cyp I inject 100mg on Monday and 100mg on Tuesday. I take Chrysin and Zinc to keep my estrogen in check. My doctor says my testosterone levels are now at the perfect spot. I think he said I was 94.1 and the top of the range is 95. I inquired to him about HCG because I know Dr. Chrisler is a big fan. He says the only reason I may need it is if I want to have kids because it brings up your sperm count. I am just wondering if I should go ahead and tell him I want to have kids so he can prescribe me some HCG to go along with my testosterone regime?

Print out and take Dr. Crisler's HCG update paper to him. It outlines some other good reasons for use of HCG during TRT. There's a sticky with a link to the paper at the top of the forum.

[pmgamer18]

Am I reading this right your doing a Test C shot 100mgs on Mon. and Tue are you sure you don't mean Thur. Doing 100mgs two days in row don't help much might as well do it all in one day. I do 80 mgs every 3 days this is about the same as doing 200 mgs / wk. but doing this I keep leveled and it helps keep my Estradiol levels lower. And help keep my blood thinner.

I just got back from my endo appointment. I am currently on 200mg a week of test cyp I inject 100mg on Monday and 100mg on Tuesday. I take Chrysin and Zinc to keep my estrogen in check. My doctor says my testosterone levels are now at the perfect spot. I think he said I was 94.1 and the top of the range is 95. I inquired to him about HCG because I know Dr. Chrisler is a big fan. He says the only reason I may need it is if I want to have kids because it brings up your sperm count. I am just wondering if I should go ahead and tell him I want to have kids so he can prescribe me some HCG to go along with my testosterone regime?

[r3drang3r]

I just got back from my endo appointment. I am currently on 200mg a week of test cyp I inject 100mg on Monday and 100mg on Tuesday. I take Chrysin and Zinc to keep my estrogen in check. My doctor says my testosterone levels are now at the perfect spot. I think he said I was 94.1 and the top of the range is 95. I inquired to him about HCG because I know Dr. Chrisler is a big fan. He says the only reason I may need it is if I want to have kids because it brings up your sperm count. I am just wondering if I should go ahead and tell him I want to have kids so he can prescribe me some HCG to go along with my testosterone regime?

Of course you want kids. Take the HCG and run like you robbed the Bank. If he is willing to give it to you do it. I wouldn't volunteer any additional information.

[crazycrew]

Of course you want kids. Take the HCG and run like you robbed the Bank. If he is willing to give it to you do it. I wouldn't volunteer any additional information.

What r3drang3r said X 2

[damitchell2222]

whoops yeah I meant 100mg on Monday and 100mg on Thursday. Anyways, I wish I would have told him this at my last checkup now I have to wait to Mid July in order for him to prescribe me HCG. I will tell him I want to try having kids at that time and hopefully he will give it to me then. With a prescription will I get everything I need with the HCG like insulin needles and the Bacteriostatic Water?

[r3drang3r]

whoops yeah I meant 100mg on Monday and 100mg on Thursday. Anyways, I wish I would have told him this at my last checkup now I have to wait to Mid July in order for him to prescribe me HCG. I will tell him I want to try having kids at that time and hopefully he will give it to me then. With a prescription will I get everything I need with the HCG like insulin needles and the Bacteriostatic Water?
Why wait for July. Just call back and tell him after speaking to the wife you realize it would be a good idea to start it now. He can probably call it into the Pharmacy for you.

[canthavetoomanytoys]

Why wait for July. Just call back and tell him after speaking to the wife you realize it would be a good idea to start it now. He can probably call it into the Pharmacy for you.

Again: "What r3drang3r said X 2" :)

[damitchell2222]

good call on that. How does it all work, will the Bacteriostatic Water and Insulin needles come with the script or will I need to track that stuff down myself?

[crazycrew]

good call on that. How does it all work, will the Bacteriostatic Water and Insulin needles come with the script or will I need to track that stuff down myself?

The water comes with the HCG order and your script will most probably include the syringes. The doctor isn' going to give you the meds without the means to use it.

[canthavetoomanytoys]

good call on that. How does it all work, will the Bacteriostatic Water and Insulin needles come with the script or will I need to track that stuff down myself?
Ask the doc to script it all.... just to be safe. I think Bact water needs a script in the US.... not sure about insulin needles. You will want the script just to avoid travel hassles if not for more. If you are prescribed sub-q then 31G 5/16in 3/10cc insulin needles are fine for the purpose (eg BD #328440 are high quality).

[damitchell2222]

Ask the doc to script it all.... just to be safe. I think Bact water needs a script in the US.... not sure about insulin needles. You will want the script just to avoid travel hassles if not for more. If you are prescribed sub-q then 31G 5/16in 3/10cc insulin needles are fine for the purpose (eg BD #328440 are high quality).

These insulin needles are they broken down in increments of 1/10 a cc or ml. Im hoping he gives me the 5000IU ampule then I can mix in 2 ml of Bacteriostatic water with it. That gives me a concentration of 2500IU per ml. I could then draw 1/10 a cc for my injection of 250IU. Does this seem correct.

[seekonk]

These insulin needles are they broken down in increments of 1/10 a cc or ml. Im hoping he gives me the 5000IU ampule then I can mix in 2 ml of Bacteriostatic water with it. That gives me a concentration of 2500IU per ml. I could then draw 1/10 a cc for my injection of 250IU. Does this seem correct.

Yes, which would be 10 units on the syringe.

[damitchell2222]

ok so 10 units represents 1/10th of a ml. Then the increments climb by 10's to the 100 mark im guessing.

[r3drang3r]

These insulin needles are they broken down in increments of 1/10 a cc or ml. Im hoping he gives me the 5000IU ampule then I can mix in 2 ml of Bacteriostatic water with it. That gives me a concentration of 2500IU per ml. I could then draw 1/10 a cc for my injection of 250IU. Does this seem correct.

Depending on how much you use and how often you probably don't want to get too big of a supply because once mixed it only has a shelf life of around 30 days. So 2000 UI might be better for freshness sake. With refills you'll be fine.

For example I use 2000 UI and get 13 injections of 150 UI out of 1 vial. For me 5000 is too much to use in 30 days.
Something to think about.

[damitchell2222]

I thought Dr John usually recommends 250 Iu twice week. So in a month I guess you would go through roughly 2000 Iu. I thought I read somewhere once its refridgerated the HCG has a shelf life of 60 days.

[crazycrew]

I thought Dr John usually recommends 250 Iu twice week. So in a month I guess you would go through roughly 2000 Iu. I thought I read somewhere once its refridgerated the HCG has a shelf life of 60 days.

It's more like 30 days before it starts degrading.

http://musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13684

[damitchell2222]

If I do my weekly injections 100mg of test cyp on Monday and 100mg of test cyp on Thursday what days and what amounts do you think would be best to take my HCG shot or shots?

[crazycrew]

If it were me, I would do them both at the same time .

[HQProperty]

pregnyl brand hcg lasts for 60 days. novarel only lasts 30 days.

[damitchell2222]

Good call I was also thinking of taking my HCG injections at the same time as my test injections and thanks for claryfying which HCG lasts longer.

[damitchell2222]

I just read a post on another forum that claims after using HCG for extended periods of time:

Keep in mind that extended use can cause the body to de-sensatize to natural hcg.

Is there any truth to this statement? So in other words its only useful to use when used in a cycle or something?

[josh]

I just read a post on another forum that claims after using HCG for extended periods of time:

Keep in mind that extended use can cause the body to de-sensatize to natural hcg.

Is there any truth to this statement? So in other words its only useful to use when used in a cycle or something?

HCG is an analog of LH. If you're using it to hyperstimulate testosterone production then I can see the possibility for desensitisation, but at the amounts that we're using it won't force any more production than you'd normally be putting out.

Perhaps as you age you'd experience a lesser response to the HCG.

[andrenym]

anyone?

[josh]

Probably because people don't want to jab themselves every day.

I'm on HCG monotherapy, every second day.

[Bulldog]

So is there a definitive list of what a doctor MUST prescribe for proper mixing and usage of Ovidrel? I think my insurance will cover it at 50% of their discounted cost (whatever that may be). But if the Doctor needs to prescribe Bac Water and a sterile vial to mix it in, then the cost will probably be more than for regular HCG.

[canthavetoomanytoys]

So is there a definitive list of what a doctor MUST prescribe for proper mixing and usage of Ovidrel? I think my insurance will cover it at 50% of their discounted cost (whatever that may be). But if the Doctor needs to prescribe Bac Water and a sterile vial to mix it in, then the cost will probably be more than for regular HCG.
If you can get insurance to cover the Ovidrel then you are way ahead. Just buy the supplies out of pocket and don't involve the insurance company. Get a script for the empty vials and bact water... you don't need to use it but better to have; the items are inexpensive and available from many legit sources. Insulin syringes are marginally more, in some states you need a script so ask your doctor for that too.

Technically you should have a filtered syringe when you draw from an ampoule; perhaps the nurse can set you up with that. Some people just use a standard syringe but take a risk.

This may sound involved but really not too hard and easy to maintain once you get started.

[canthavetoomanytoys]

Ovidrel will likely cost more per dose but this depends upon your insurance coverage... perhaps only a small copay is needed.
You need to determine if the conveniance and quality are worth more.
On the other extreme you can purchase urine derived hCG from India at the least cost. Not knocking the quality or value but this requires some additional effort.