take armour efore blood is drawn

[matttaylor]

I have a RX to get thyroid panel done via labcorp,
I take my ARMOUR , synthroid mix when I wake up. Do i not take the medicine morning of the test, or do I take medication the have bloood drawn.
Seems results will fluctuate wildly depending on time of day I have blood drawn, especially as far as aurmor is concerned

[Dr. John Crisler]

Check out the sticky dealing with these points.

[JanSz]

I have a RX to get thyroid panel done via labcorp,
I take my ARMOUR , synthroid mix when I wake up. Do i not take the medicine morning of the test, or do I take medication the have bloood drawn.
Seems results will fluctuate wildly depending on time of day I have blood drawn, especially as far as aurmor is concerned

Armour(T4 + T3)
Synthroid(T4)
Cytomel(T3)

You may want to add some more indicators to your thyroid test.

RT3
TotalT3

Some people are posting high RT3 and low TotalT3

In case you are in that cathegory you may want to consider taking Cytomel(T3) rather than Synthroid(T4).

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High RT3 values are correlated with beginning and end of life.

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[pmgamer18]

I am told not to take my armour in the morning before doing my labs. I allways get my labs at 8am fasting.

[JanSz]

I am told not to take my armour in the morning before doing my labs. I allways get my labs at 8am fasting.

I like it that way also (7:30AM here).

But keep in mind that you are catching FreeT3 at its minimum.
(Do not tell anybody, but I still like my FreeT3 to be at the top on that draw).
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With your health problems,
you have a (better than average) reason to check also

TotalT3
RT3
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(and make real good effort to keep them in the desirable place).
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[pmgamer18]

I seen my Dr. yesterday and my Thyroid levels went up to high fixing my to low E2 levels. So we lowed it 30 mgs just doing this one day ago I feel better. My heart beat come down. E2 can mess with your thyroid to high or even to low.

[matttaylor]

I am told not to take my armour in the morning before doing my labs. I allways get my labs at 8am fasting.

thanks for this info, i could not find it in a sticky [ sure it there but i could not find it]

[Dr. John Crisler]

I am told not to take my armour in the morning before doing my labs. I allways get my labs at 8am fasting.Your doc is testing how well enzyme D1 is working.

[JanSz]

Your doc is testing how well enzyme D1 is working.

In Phils' condition his doc should worry also about D3.

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[chilln]

I have a RX to get thyroid panel done via labcorp,
I take my ARMOUR , synthroid mix when I wake up. Do i not take the medicine morning of the test, or do I take medication the have bloood drawn.
Seems results will fluctuate wildly depending on time of day I have blood drawn, especially as far as aurmor is concerned

I'm all for mixing it up.

Some days take armour and measure soon after. You'll measure your max levels.

Other days take armour and measure much later. You'll measure your midrange levels.

Other days measure first, then take armour. You'll measure your minimum levels.

My point is that over time you do want to determine how quickly your body metabolizes Armour, and no-one wants to get three or four blood draws on the same day, which is why I mix it up over different blood draws.

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But initially, when you're first starting out, you want to measure your minimums AND your maximums, so that you know you're not going too high or too low.

Some medical professional advisers like to work on minimums when dosing, others like to work off maximums to determine dosing.

I recommend you work on both - because you never really want to go too high or too low.

[matttaylor]

every 8 weeks should be frequent enough .
You can expect potential loss in your retirement check potentially too.
There is NOTHING set in stone .
If you are under 62, be glad you have ANY coverage especially for medicine.

I am self employed age 46 , married w 2 kids and pay 1100 month in insurance premium. Thats considered a good deal.

[matttaylor]

I'm all for mixing it up.

Some days take armour and measure soon after. You'll measure your max levels.

Other days take armour and measure much later. You'll measure your midrange levels.

Other days measure first, then take armour. You'll measure your minimum levels.

My point is that over time you do want to determine how quickly your body metabolizes Armour, and no-one wants to get three or four blood draws on the same day, which is why I mix it up over different blood draws.

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But initially, when you're first starting out, you want to measure your minimums AND your maximums, so that you know you're not going too high or too low.

Some medical professional advisers like to work on minimums when dosing, others like to work off maximums to determine dosing.

I recommend you work on both - because you never really want to go too high or too low.

great , now more confusion.
Which is it, fasting , morning test without meds or taking meds.....?

seems there is no generally accepted practice or standard answer

[chilln]

great , now more confusion.

Which is it, fasting , morning test without meds or taking meds.....?

seems there is no generally accepted practice or standard answer

Dr Crisler gave you his standard answer. Please actually follow-up and read his sticky.

Do you really expect us all to be in unanimous agreement ? That's a rhetorical question and the obvious answer is "no".

You get differing opinions, and you assign a weight to each opinion based on trust, consistency with your experience, or ouiji board / seance / dice roll / etc.., and then you take action.

I suspect you are capable of assigning weight to the differing opinions and taking action.

[matttaylor]

Dr Crisler gave you his standard answer. Please actually follow-up and read his sticky.

Do you really expect us all to be in unanimous agreement ? That's a rhetorical question and the obvious answer is "no".

You get differing opinions, and you assign a weight to each opinion based on trust, consistency with your experience, or ouiji board / seance / dice roll / etc.., and then you take action.

I suspect you are capable of assigning weight to the differing opinions and taking action.

I suspect you are capable of assigning weight to the differing opinions and taking action.


barely

[chilln]

I suspect you are capable of assigning weight to the differing opinions and taking action.


barely

I'll give you some help here.

Assign maximum weight to Dr Crisler's recommendations, try them out, and if they don't work as discussed then ask questions about why they didn't work on the forum.

Usually you'll then uncover a conflicting underlying issue which wasn't addressed the first time around.

Since we only work on improving your knowledge of your problem, rather than prescribing therapy for you, you may want to ask more and more questions.

We rarely have to time to write enough in a single forum post to fill in all of the missing gaps in your understanding of a problem, so we rely on you asking several questions to focus a discussion on only the areas you need.

That minimizes our workload.

[hardasnails1973]

Let not make this a complex science experiment. In this case easier is the simpliest answer (trust me on this one)

Suggestion to test what the thyroid medcine is doing take it accordingly the previous day and then get up and drink 8-16 oz of water drive and get blood drawn..wait for results

[Dr. John Crisler]

In Phils' condition his doc should worry also about D3.

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Yes, but not directly. It's a competitive situation: when you serve D1, you starve D3.

[may19th2001]

so a drug such as synthroid could raise your hear rate if it is not needed or if too much is prescribed from the interpetation below as an opinion and not as medical advise?


I seen my Dr. yesterday and my Thyroid levels went up to high fixing my to low E2 levels. So we lowed it 30 mgs just doing this one day ago I feel better. My heart beat come down. E2 can mess with your thyroid to high or even to low.

[chilln]

so a drug such as synthroid could raise your hear rate if it is not needed or if too much is prescribed from the interpetation below as an opinion and not as medical advise?


Correct.