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phatkid77
12-10-2007, 03:25 PM
are we doing that here?> if not, delete this....

heres my current plan

here is my update, this will be longish, but funny...to me

first, i think i love my urologist, youll see why later..

so, we meet i tell him since stopping for 2 months i still feel like crap, this made him happy, i did his experiment, and this tells him i with out a doubt , require testosterone..i have a feeling he likes to keep it simple, testosterone only

he goes into his speel about delivery systems, and said whatever one i want is fine... i opt for the DELESTESTRYL again

he was going to write for 100mg/wk again, until i brought up our last visit where he stated maybe i need 150mg since i didnt feel gr8 still......"oh yeah, ok, 150mg/wk, and we'll see how you are in 12 weeks"

i then brought up the HCG and why i would like to add it (memory, sense of well being ect) he said "i have not heard of that, i dont use HCG" i said i would be a guinea pig..haha
he asked" what do you propose", i said 150mg/wk and on the two days b4 injection 250iu of HCG... he nodded (makes sense)

i told him i have print outs for him to read (although i think he knows lots on this) and he need not write a script now... "nope, no problem i will write you what u want" and restates my intended plan....to which he states with a big smile (my, you really like your injections dont you!) almost pissed myself!!

then he said what i meant to say,
1. start with the 150mg, see how it goes, then add the HCG and then i want to quantify it with blood work

so he leaves to write script, when he comes back he says "ive changed my mind" (**** i thought)

why dont we go aggressive with HCG for 9 wks, and maybe stay on clomid if HCG works (fack!)

he wrote for 5000iu 3 x wk for 9wks i think, 3 wk break, repeat x 4?
i informed him my benefits may not cover the HCG and told him the price of it, he almost fell of the chair..then i said i m not big on the side effects of clomid..."dont blame you" he says

"well, heres your prescription, if HCG not covered, do the deletestryl and HCG however you want, you're the expert" see me in 12 wks

then his nurse (after my asking) gave me her card to come in for blood work 1 wk before my appt, i told her i want to do an experiment, can i come in for blood work in 9wks after being on 150wk, then retest 3-4wks later after HCG implementation.. "sure, call me when ever you want and well take it for you"

i'll bring up ARIMIDEX Later, one thing at a time

i see my blood was

total test 11.9pmol...345ng...?
shbg was 26

thats all i saw

phatkid77
01-09-2008, 12:07 PM
well, the rest of my labs from Dec 5 (8 wks off TRT)

E2 34ng
bio T 6.11 range 4-10nmol/L
DHEA-s 4.8 RANGe 2.8-12.5umol/L
prolactin 8.1 RANGE 2.5-13 ug/L
TSH 2.19

I JUST NOTICED THIS..ON THIS LAB, AND I VE SAW ON OTHERS...

"CORTISOL DEMONSTRATES SIGNIFICANT DIRURNAL VARIATION" i was unaware we tested cortisol....gunna have to ask him what gives

well, im 4wks into my 150wk... i seem to want sex more often...not so much AM wood... we just had a baby, and mrs phatkids boobs are bigger...so that may be a factor too...
i "ripped" one off the other day at noon, had a woody by 3pm looking at her boobs...not sure i had that response when i popped a cialis..

JanSz
01-09-2008, 12:28 PM
are we doing that here?> if not, delete this....

heres my current plan

here is my update, this will be longish, but funny...to me

first, i think i love my urologist, youll see why later..

so, we meet i tell him since stopping for 2 months i still feel like crap, this made him happy, i did his experiment, and this tells him i with out a doubt , require testosterone..i have a feeling he likes to keep it simple, testosterone only

he goes into his speel about delivery systems, and said whatever one i want is fine... i opt for the DELESTESTRYL again

he was going to write for 100mg/wk again, until i brought up our last visit where he stated maybe i need 150mg since i didnt feel gr8 still......"oh yeah, ok, 150mg/wk, and we'll see how you are in 12 weeks"

i then brought up the HCG and why i would like to add it (memory, sense of well being ect) he said "i have not heard of that, i dont use HCG" i said i would be a guinea pig..haha
he asked" what do you propose", i said 150mg/wk and on the two days b4 injection 250iu of HCG... he nodded (makes sense)

i told him i have print outs for him to read (although i think he knows lots on this) and he need not write a script now... "nope, no problem i will write you what u want" and restates my intended plan....to which he states with a big smile (my, you really like your injections dont you!) almost pissed myself!!

then he said what i meant to say,
1. start with the 150mg, see how it goes, then add the HCG and then i want to quantify it with blood work

so he leaves to write script, when he comes back he says "ive changed my mind" (**** i thought)

why dont we go aggressive with HCG for 9 wks, and maybe stay on clomid if HCG works (fack!)

he wrote for 5000iu 3 x wk for 9wks i think, 3 wk break, repeat x 4?
i informed him my benefits may not cover the HCG and told him the price of it, he almost fell of the chair..then i said i m not big on the side effects of clomid..."dont blame you" he says

"well, heres your prescription, if HCG not covered, do the deletestryl and HCG however you want, you're the expert" see me in 12 wks

then his nurse (after my asking) gave me her card to come in for blood work 1 wk before my appt, i told her i want to do an experiment, can i come in for blood work in 9wks after being on 150wk, then retest 3-4wks later after HCG implementation.. "sure, call me when ever you want and well take it for you"

i'll bring up ARIMIDEX Later, one thing at a time

i see my blood was

total test 11.9pmol...345ng...?
shbg was 26

thats all i saw

shbg was 26

150 is fine, 160 would be better

You would do better if you broke this into E2D schedule

one day (T + AI)
next day (380iu hcg)

If you could find a test for FreeE2 you would do even better.


After you adjust your BAT and FreeE2 to desired level,
stay there do not change anything, regardless of how you feel.
Changing there will just waste time.

Look for other reasons if you still feel not ok.

Happy New year.