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Greenie
01-30-2009, 06:07 PM
For those of you who are on Dr. Crisler's HCG protocol of 2 days of HCG and the following day a T shot......

I'd like to know what you guys are using on this specific protocol only.

I do .35cc HCG (SQ) on Mon and Tues and .65cc of test cyp on Wed, (IM in the butt).

JanSz
01-30-2009, 07:12 PM
For those of you who are on Dr. Crisler's HCG protocol of 2 days of HCG and the following day a T shot......

I'd like to know what you guys are using on this specific protocol only.

I do .35cc HCG (SQ) on Mon and Tues and .65cc of test cyp on Wed, (IM in the butt).

I am not under dr John's orders.

Size of HCG dose is measured in IU.
If you prefer to give it as volume you have to give also density.

Say, if you start with 10000iu vial with HCG powder,
add
5mL=5cc of diluetant (you have flexibility here)
you have a solution density
10000iu/5cc=2000iu/cc

if you take 0.35cc that mean your HCG shot size is
2000iu/cc*0.35cc=700iu

sounds like a large shot, but I have made some assumptions, you have to clarify details about you HCG.
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Same goes about your T shots.

.65cc

tells about volume of the shot, you have to tell us what testosterone you have used, its density.

There is less choices with testosterone. It usually is 100mg/mL or 200mg/mL or 250mg/mL
You have to provide those details.
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It is easy to get lost in details.
Wonder how many of us have a problems with their treatment because they are using different doses than they think they are.
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Greenie
01-30-2009, 11:24 PM
I am not under dr John's orders.

Size of HCG dose is measured in IU.
If you prefer to give it as volume you have to give also density.

Say, if you start with 10000iu vial with HCG powder,
add
5mL=5cc of diluetant (you have flexibility here)
you have a solution density
10000iu/5cc=2000iu/cc

if you take 0.35cc that mean your HCG shot size is
2000iu/cc*0.35cc=700iu

sounds like a large shot, but I have made some assumptions, you have to clarify details about you HCG.
================================================== ==

Same goes about your T shots.

.65cc

tells about volume of the shot, you have to tell us what testosterone you have used, its density.

There is less choices with testosterone. It usually is 100mg/mL or 200mg/mL or 250mg/mL
You have to provide those details.
================================================== ====
It is easy to get lost in details.
Wonder how many of us have a problems with their treatment because they are using different doses than they think they are.
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Jan,

I thought pretty much everyone mixed their HCG with 10cc of water. That is what I use, so I inject 350 iu of HCG on Mon and Tues.
I use 200 mg/ml test cyp, so I inject 130mg (.65cc) of T on Wed.

ZonaDave
02-14-2009, 11:57 PM
Jan,

I thought pretty much everyone mixed their HCG with 10cc of water. That is what I use, so I inject 350 iu of HCG on Mon and Tues.
I use 200 mg/ml test cyp, so I inject 130mg (.65cc) of T on Wed.

how's that working out for you?

Greenie
02-15-2009, 10:57 AM
how's that working out for you?

Seems to be working very well. My last total T was 673 and my free T was 16.5 (range 7.2-24). I feel good, have good am wood and sex, and seem to be sleeping better than I have in years. The sleep improvement may be due to some other factors too (400mg of ibuprofen at night along with magnesium also helps I'm sure), plus wearing a sleep mask to make things very dark. I will posts a new thread about this.

I am getting a more comprehensive series of tests this week so I'll see how that all looks. I am also considering a break from HCG for a few weeks to see how that goes based on some of the posts here.