Male Lactation???

[simpsonfan]

So, I have been feeling pretty great lately. Then yesterday I notice a bit of a wet spot on my shirt over my right nipple. So when I got home I sqeezed my nipple and a clear liquid came out. I have never had any nipple issues before. They are not sensitive, no lumps, no other issues ever. So should I be concerned?

I am on HCG 250iu's 2x a week, 200mg test cyp a week, and .5mg arimidex every third day. My last lab was 5-6 weeks ago and the results were:

Total Test 507 250-1100
test Free 141.8 46.0-224.0
bioavail test 297.8 110-575
SHBG 11 8-48
Albumin 4.6 3.6-5.1
DHT 32 25-75
Estradiol ultra sensitive 42 <29

I added the HCG and the Arimidex after this lab and have been on the HCG and arimidex for about 3 weeks. I have also had my prolactin checked back in Oct. and it was 4.2 range 2-18 so it was low.

Comments?

[Greenie]

My knockers seem to itch a little occasionally, but I've never seen milk. Interested to see if others have noticed this.

[JanSz]

So, I have been feeling pretty great lately. Then yesterday I notice a bit of a wet spot on my shirt over my right nipple. So when I got home I sqeezed my nipple and a clear liquid came out. I have never had any nipple issues before. They are not sensitive, no lumps, no other issues ever. So should I be concerned?

I am on HCG 250iu's 2x a week, 200mg test cyp a week, and .5mg arimidex every third day. My last lab was 5-6 weeks ago and the results were:

Total Test 507 250-1100
test Free 141.8 46.0-224.0
bioavail test 297.8 110-575
SHBG 11 8-48
Albumin 4.6 3.6-5.1
DHT 32 25-75
Estradiol ultra sensitive 42 <29

I added the HCG and the Arimidex after this lab and have been on the HCG and arimidex for about 3 weeks. I have also had my prolactin checked back in Oct. and it was 4.2 range 2-18 so it was low.

Comments?

200mg test cyp a week
Total Test 507 250-1100

This two numbers tell me that you are hypermetabolizer or there is something wrong.

Discuss with your doctor following:
Consider EOD schedule:
Consider increasing HCG and decreasing mg of test/week
as follows:

One day 40mg=0.2cc=20 units testosterone
next day 250iu HCG
keep Arimidex as is, 0.5mg/E3D

After 2 months do this tests at Quest, blood drawn at Quest right before T-shot.

40 DHEA sulfate
41 Prolactin - (746X)
44 Progesterone, LC/MS/MS - (17183X)
45 Pregnenolone, LC/MS/MS (31493X)
46 Estradiol, Ultrasensitive, LC/MS/MS (30289X)
47 Estrone, LC/MS/MS (23244X)
48 Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS) Code: 14966X
49 Dihydrotestosterone (204X)
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Goals:

DHEAs(500-640)
E2(25-29)
BAT(460-575)
DHT(60-90)
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Your DHT is rather low, if you have some related problems may consider a dab of Androgel.
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Lactation
some of it is applicable to animals, may not be for humans
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The endocrine control of lactation is one of the most complex physiologic mechanisms of human parturition. Mammogenesis, lactogenesis, galactopoiesis, and galactokinesis are all essential to assure proper lactation. Prolactin is the key hormone of lactation and seems to be the single most important galactopoietic hormone. Oxytocin, serotonin, opioids, histamine, substance P, and arginine-leucine modulate prolactin release by means of an autocrine/paracrine mechanism, whereas estrogen and progesterone hormones can act at the hypothalamic and adenohypophysial levels. Human placental lactogen and growth factors play an essential role to assure successful lactation during pregnancy. Oxytocin is the most powerful galactokinetic hormone.

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galactopoietic hormones
hormone lactation
oxytocin
prolactin
Hormones, Mammary Growth, and Lactation
estrogen caused mammary duct growth
estrogen and progesterone was required for lobule-alveolar development of the mammary glands
prolactin and growth hormone were essential for mammary growth
exogenous prolactin, glucocorticoids, and estrogen would initiate secretion of milk
progesterone inhibited the process
prolactin and thyroxine had been shown to stimulate lactation, while glucocorticoids suppressed lactation
Definitive roles for growth hormone and insulin during lactation had not been established








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[esteban760]

Lactation can occur in males if their E levels get too high. I've read cases where bodybuilders have this problem. However, the BB's are on HUGE amounts of Test and other compounds.

Just talk to your doc. I'm sure it's an E issue.

[Drew]

Get prolactin checked. I've heard with those having a prolactinoma, lactation can occur.

[BlogApostille]

According to recent studies (Macadam in Compleat Mother), a significant part of lactation is psychological; a will to breastfeed is a major part in being able to provide milk for an infant. Doctors thus recommend the following program to encourage lactation in males, although male lactation in humans is not recommended unless necessary for the care of an infant.:thumbup:

[ptm82379]

Listen to Jan and Drew

Your TT is low for the amount of supplementation you are on.
My TT is 1180 in a trough when on 200 mg per wk and no HCG

Prolactin can cause male lactation and i think progesterone plays a role here too but im not totally sure on that one.

[simpsonfan]

Since the thread has come back to life... I have not had any other nipple issues or lactation since this one occurance. My prolactin levels were checked a month before the issue and they were low (I think it was a 4 on a scale of 2-17, cant remember for sure). I know my estrogen was high because I had just started the arimidex. The only other thing that I think could have been an issue is nipple stimulation. Meaning my wife pinches them pretty good during sex. I have had zero issues since then and have kept my trt protocol the same except I have lowered the arimidex to .5mg 2x a week.

I think the moral of the story is dont play with your nipples too much:biggrin: