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Dr. John Crisler
01-26-2009, 05:35 PM
Finally, we are ready.
Employing the PureLipo technique--with my own little touches, of course--I can now remove gyno in my office here in Lansing. We have completed our state-of-the-art Procedures Room, and are ready to begin offering not only this procedure, but the entire BodySculpting process (for you and/or your ladies).
The gyno procedure is done without general anesthesia, down time, stitches or scarring. We also offer it at a fraction of current surgical costs.
If hormonal manipulation is necessary, we can work that in too, of course.
I just had a cancellation, so if anyone is hot to get their gyno rid, I have a slot available this coming Thursday, Friday or Saturday (going to do a couple of my friends, so they are flexible). Give me a call and we'll get you right in. Of note, I could also take care of those love handles or lower abdominal pooch you haven't been able to train/diet away at the same time.
We also have financing available through Care Credit.
Once the fat is drained out of a particular area, eg. lower abdominal, does that make it much more difficult to return?
MarkLA
01-26-2009, 07:55 PM
Are the results immediate?
i.e. Procedure, go home, recovery and viola?
Thanks,
Mark
Dr. John Crisler
01-26-2009, 09:49 PM
Once the fat is drained out of a particular area, eg. lower abdominal, does that make it much more difficult to return?
Great question.
Once the fat cells are gone, they are gone.
However, if you insist upon eating like a pig, the body will find ways of piling on fat.
Of note, it's not just how much fat you remove, it is moreso how you draw it out. This is the art and craft of BodySculpting, a life long pursuit in aesthetic medicine. I have arranged and contracted to have a Master Body Sculptor with me in the Procedure Room at all time. This not only is the best way to provide expert care to all my patients, right off the bat, it also is the most direct route to my attaining Master's level status myself (my desire for which will surprise few here, I should think).
For instance, if a lady has a blocky midsection, we can contour her to a lovely waist. That is Body Sculpting.
Dr. John Crisler
01-26-2009, 09:52 PM
Are the results immediate?
i.e. Procedure, go home, recovery and viola?
Thanks,
Mark
The next day you just hang out.
During the next days and weeks, the body tightens down. All told, it takes about a month to get all of it--although some report they continue to lose weight for many months afterward.
This is all convered during our Consultation, of course.
00slotiv
01-26-2009, 10:15 PM
Finally, we are ready.
Employing the PureLipo technique--with my own little touches, of course--I can now remove gyno in my office here in Lansing. We have completed our state-of-the-art Procedures Room, and are ready to begin offering not only this procedure, but the entire BodySculpting process (for you and/or your ladies).
The gyno procedure is done without general anesthesia, down time, stitches or scarring. We also offer it at a fraction of current surgical costs.
If hormonal manipulation is necessary, we can work that in too, of course.
I just had a cancellation, so if anyone is hot to get their gyno rid, I have a slot available this coming Thursday, Friday or Saturday (going to do a couple of my friends, so they are flexible). Give me a call and we'll get you right in. Of note, I could also take care of those love handles or lower abdominal pooch you haven't been able to train/diet away at the same time.
We also have financing available through Care Credit.
Well, that sounds very interesting. I think I will contact your office as I have a few questions already. This may be better than spending the money on Lasik eye surgery.
Bob
Dr. John Crisler
01-26-2009, 10:17 PM
There is a lot of information available at:
www.PureLipo.com
Teegunn
01-26-2009, 10:29 PM
I'm very interested in the gyno side of it. Being very lean already, I don't need liposuction. However, I have a question for the good Doctor Crisler: Would this procedure possibly be able to get rid of Lipoma's?? I have quite a few lipoma's on my body, and since I have gotten my BF down into the single digits, they show up a lot more. It would be great to be able to not have to have surgery to cut them out.
00slotiv
01-26-2009, 10:41 PM
There is a lot of information available at:
www.PureLipo.com
That's awesome Doctor John but the locator only goes up to 250 miles and there is no one within that distance so I may have to see you.
As long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg I am thinking about it. Would be an interesting vacation.
Bob
00slotiv
01-26-2009, 10:56 PM
There is a lot of information available at:
www.PureLipo.com
Wow, WOW, I may have to make the home page my background.
Bob
Bioman3131
01-27-2009, 12:03 AM
I would highly, highly recommend gyno surgery for those in need of it. I had it done two years ago and the benefits are unbelievable. It really does have a huge impact on your self-image or at least it did for me. I had the traditional procedure and that wasn't too bad but it sounds like Dr. John's would be much easier physically and on the pocket book.
Dr. John Crisler
01-27-2009, 07:47 AM
I'm very interested in the gyno side of it. Being very lean already, I don't need liposuction. However, I have a question for the good Doctor Crisler: Would this procedure possibly be able to get rid of Lipoma's?? I have quite a few lipoma's on my body, and since I have gotten my BF down into the single digits, they show up a lot more. It would be great to be able to not have to have surgery to cut them out.
One word answer:
Yes.
Dr. John Crisler
01-27-2009, 07:47 AM
That's awesome Doctor John but the locator only goes up to 250 miles and there is no one within that distance so I may have to see you.
As long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg I am thinking about it. Would be an interesting vacation.
Bob
Ummm....that's the idea. LOL
Dr. John Crisler
01-27-2009, 07:48 AM
Wow, WOW, I may have to make the home page my background.
Bob
hehehehe
00slotiv
01-27-2009, 10:55 AM
Ummm....that's the idea. LOL
Got me! Maybe if the distance pulldown was larger...
Tell you what, I don't resemble anyone in those before pictures but will think about it. Maybe you could help with that six pack that is in there somewhere.
Bob
conquerit
01-27-2009, 11:06 AM
What is the projected time away from the gym after the procedure? Overall it sounds like the recovery period is pretty quick as far as getting back to work etc. My wife had regular lipo done a couple of years ago and she was down for awhile.
SANDERS
01-27-2009, 11:44 AM
Neck tucks?
00slotiv
01-27-2009, 11:47 AM
What is the projected time away from the gym after the procedure? Overall it sounds like the recovery period is pretty quick as far as getting back to work etc. My wife had regular lipo done a couple of years ago and she was down for awhile.
Testimonials on the internet have people going back to work after having the procedure on the weekend, so maybe it is the same with the gym.
With this procedure, you won't even need to go to the gym for a few years. :biggrin:
Bob
Dr. John Crisler
01-27-2009, 12:50 PM
What is the projected time away from the gym after the procedure? Overall it sounds like the recovery period is pretty quick as far as getting back to work etc. My wife had regular lipo done a couple of years ago and she was down for awhile.
I should expect a week would be fine--knowing how hard you guys train.
Dr. John Crisler
01-27-2009, 12:50 PM
Neck tucks?Yup.
Teegunn
01-28-2009, 12:17 AM
One word answer:
Yes.
Wow. That sounds GREAT. Even though these lipoma's are supposed to be benign and not harmful, they have grown slowly over the years and I have been dreading getting them surgically cut out someday. If this new procedure can get them out via a better form of liposuction, that would be awesome. Thanks for that info, Doc!
Great question.
Once the fat cells are gone, they are gone.
However, if you insist upon eating like a pig, the body will find ways of piling on fat.
Of note, it's not just how much fat you remove, it is moreso how you draw it out. This is the art and craft of BodySculpting, a life long pursuit in aesthetic medicine. I have arranged and contracted to have a Master Body Sculptor with me in the Procedure Room at all time. This not only is the best way to provide expert care to all my patients, right off the bat, it also is the most direct route to my attaining Master's level status myself (my desire for which will surprise few here, I should think).
For instance, if a lady has a blocky midsection, we can contour her to a lovely waist. That is Body Sculpting.
Thanks for the response Doc.
Is it true that if fat is removed from one area, if you put on weight again the body will just store the fat in another area instead?
eg. if you have your stomach sucked, your body might just store excess calories on your butt instead?
00slotiv
02-02-2009, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the response Doc.
Is it true that if fat is removed from one area, if you put on weight again the body will just store the fat in another area instead?
eg. if you have your stomach sucked, your body might just store excess calories on your butt instead?
i am interested in the answer to this as well since i have heard that about liposuction.
bob
JackBauer
02-02-2009, 05:34 PM
I saw Dr. Crisler today...
You can tell he is genuinely excited about the technique and results....
(I didn't go there for that procedure - I just could tell that he is passionate about it)
Dr. John Crisler
02-03-2009, 06:52 AM
I saw Dr. Crisler today...
You can tell he is genuinely excited about the technique and results....
(I didn't go there for that procedure - I just could tell that he is passionate about it)
Then I should have showed you my new Procedures Room! Like a boy with new toys...
Dr. John Crisler
02-03-2009, 06:53 AM
i am interested in the answer to this as well since i have heard that about liposuction.
bob
If you insist upon eating like a pig, you WILL waste your procedure.
However, having said that, it is also easier to maintain weight than it is to lose it.
JackBauer
02-03-2009, 08:05 AM
Then I should have showed you my new Procedures Room! Like a boy with new toys...
You got off easy yesterday Doc... I am an extremely inquisitive person. Had it not been for my early flight, I probably would have asked a ton of questions, about the new gyno treatment and everything in general. (Even though I have higher medical priorities right now - I still am curious about it... :) )
Thanks again for everything yesterday....
00slotiv
02-14-2009, 04:54 PM
You got off easy yesterday Doc... I am an extremely inquisitive person. Had it not been for my early flight, I probably would have asked a ton of questions, about the new gyno treatment and everything in general. (Even though I have higher medical priorities right now - I still am curious about it... :) )
Thanks again for everything yesterday....
jack,
i think i will make an appointment for this for may. doctor john answered all my questions. will look at it as that big vacation i never took. this won't fix the economy but will be a start.
bob
Demetrius
07-31-2009, 05:04 PM
Is this appropriate for glandular gynecomastia? It is sounding like it would work wonders on pseudogynecomastia. Will this procedure be able to remove the gland itself?
Also, how low can one reduce one's bodyfat levels with this? I'm in single digits, but for whatever reason, I've always dreamed of having about the same amount of fat on my stomach as what I've got on the back of my hand. (I know me and everyone else) I would definitely be interested in a procedure that could "shrink wrap" my stomach. I lose way to much muscle (and motivation) when I try to do this by dieting.
00slotiv
07-31-2009, 06:44 PM
Is this appropriate for glandular gynecomastia? It is sounding like it would work wonders on pseudogynecomastia. Will this procedure be able to remove the gland itself?
Also, how low can one reduce one's bodyfat levels with this? I'm in single digits, but for whatever reason, I've always dreamed of having about the same amount of fat on my stomach as what I've got on the back of my hand. (I know me and everyone else) I would definitely be interested in a procedure that could "shrink wrap" my stomach. I lose way to much muscle (and motivation) when I try to do this by dieting.
The fat cells that are removed won't return, but diet has to be reasonable.
With fat removal and skin tightening, it will reduce in the areas worked on.
I was a 28 on calipers before (stomach), and awhile back was 15 and it might be less now. I haven't seen any of my before pictures to compare, but it is a lot different now.
I don't know what to tell you about being a candidate if you are in single digits already, but I have read the most dramatic results are when you are not too terribly far away from a good weight for your body already.
Bob
Willje
08-01-2009, 01:00 AM
This is definitely in the cards for me.I've gone from 300 lbs. down to 270.When I hit 225,I'm there.This has been a lifelong bugaboo.I have grown kids who have never seen me with my shirt off.If I have to sell a kidney...so be it!
Dr. John Crisler
08-01-2009, 09:17 AM
The fat cells that are removed won't return, but diet has to be reasonable.
With fat removal and skin tightening, it will reduce in the areas worked on.
I was a 28 on calipers before (stomach), and awhile back was 15 and it might be less now. I haven't seen any of my before pictures to compare, but it is a lot different now.
I don't know what to tell you about being a candidate if you are in single digits already, but I have read the most dramatic results are when you are not too terribly far away from a good weight for your body already.
BobWe also find great results when debulking the body. 30# at a time is not uncommon, but results may be seen for 4-6 months after the procedure.
I odn;t know why, but it is as if the entire metabolism is speeded up. I know a part of that is the mechanical lipomobilization which goes on--busting up that fat somehow makes it reabsorb.
JanSz
08-01-2009, 09:49 AM
This is definitely in the cards for me.I've gone from 300 lbs. down to 270.When I hit 225,I'm there.This has been a lifelong bugaboo.I have grown kids who have never seen me with my shirt off.If I have to sell a kidney...so be it!
Just so you know the going price.
In NJ you can get $10000 for each kidney,
then Rabi turns around and sells for $160000.
..............
Wise Guy
08-01-2009, 01:35 PM
We also find great results when debulking the body. 30# at a time is not uncommon, but results may be seen for 4-6 months after the procedure.
I odn;t know why, but it is as if the entire metabolism is speeded up. I know a part of that is the mechanical lipomobilization which goes on--busting up that fat somehow makes it reabsorb.
Dr John,
Have you investigated some of the concepts behind stubborn "Brown Fat"?
It is likely this is probably one of the secrets behind your procedure, an unexpected beneficial result.
To save some time, I yanked some stuff here from Wiki, its pretty accurate and will give you a general outlining to what I'm talking about
Brown adipose tissue (BAT) or brown fat is one of two types of fat or adipose tissue (the other being white adipose tissue) found in mammals. It is especially abundant in newborns and in hibernating mammals.
Its primary function is to generate body heat, in animals or newborns that do not shiver. In contrast to white adipocytes (fat cells), which contain a single lipid droplet, brown adipocytes contain numerous smaller droplets and a much higher number of mitochondria, which contain iron and make it brown.
Brown fat also contains more capillaries than white fat, since it has a greater need for oxygen than most tissues.
Further, recent studies using Positron Emission Tomography scanning of adult humans have shown that it is still present in adults in the upper chest and neck.
Brown fat is really advanced fat designed to keep us going in times of starvation or hibernation - This is an amazing evolutionary trait we have picked up, and is a huge reason why we are here today.
The problem though, is since this is 2009 and we no longer starve or hibernate in America, this "Brown Fat" is really difficult to remove via diet or exercise.
This may be another reason why this type of procedure can be really beneficial.
ptm82379
08-02-2009, 10:21 AM
Does it remove glandular gyno though.
Demetrius
08-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Does it remove glandular gyno though.
This is my main concern. Removing fat from my chest is not really an issue. Removing the gland is what I'm most interested in.
Bulldog
08-05-2009, 02:57 PM
This is my main concern. Removing fat from my chest is not really an issue. Removing the gland is what I'm most interested in.
I think you will find the answer to your question in this thread.....
Just finished Pure Lipo-gyno discovered! (http://www.musclechatroom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3291)
Bulldog
04-06-2010, 03:00 PM
I was just poking around the www.purelipo.com website and noticed that it no longer lists Dr. Crisler when you do a search and put in the Lansing, MI zip code (48912). A few weeks ago when I looked it listed Dr. Crisler.
Just a heads up Dr. John, as I would assume it is to your benefit to be listed on their website as a practicing PureLipo doctor.
blueboy
04-06-2010, 06:36 PM
Does anyone who had this procedure done have any updates to how their chests are looking post-procedure? Are they flat? Is the gyno gone?
I'm considering getting something like this done myself.
Bryce720
04-06-2010, 06:38 PM
I second that notion, any updates would be wonderful I have psuedo gyno and have wanted to get rid of it since about 15. Any and all info would be helpful.
Bulldog
04-06-2010, 06:40 PM
I'm curious as to how many times Dr. Crisler has done this procedure now?
Bryce720
04-06-2010, 06:52 PM
To be honest I am curious if he still does it, I see nothing about it on his webpage and to be honest today is the 1st time I have heard about this procedure. It will be interesting if someone who has actually had the procedure can chime in.
blueboy
04-06-2010, 07:28 PM
To be honest I am curious if he still does it, I see nothing about it on his webpage and to be honest today is the 1st time I have heard about this procedure. It will be interesting if someone who has actually had the procedure can chime in.
I'm fairly certain he is still doing this procedure. His office is still booking for it.
Bulldog
04-06-2010, 08:32 PM
I'm fairly certain he is still doing this procedure. His office is still booking for it.
Yep.
00slotiv
04-06-2010, 10:17 PM
To be honest I am curious if he still does it, I see nothing about it on his webpage and to be honest today is the 1st time I have heard about this procedure. It will be interesting if someone who has actually had the procedure can chime in.
I will call you tomorrow. Whatever you want to know. You owe it to yourself to still consult with Doctor John before deciding, and this won't cost you anything. I don't think you can go wrong with this.
Bob
Dr. John Crisler
04-07-2010, 05:03 AM
Yes, I am still doing the procedure. In fact, I am currently booking for the week after I get back from Orlando.
TheITGuy
04-07-2010, 02:53 PM
This is such an amazing procedure, we have dedicated a website to Gyno and it's correction. The website is ATMgyno.com and will provide basic information. Before and after photos will be added soon. The PureLipo.com site may also be of interest and should have a number of before and after photos available.
Still have questions? You can contact us by emailing PatientCare@ATMAntiAging.com or call us at 517-485-4424.
We still have an opening on April 23rd and two on April 24th! Get in touch with us to schedule. If you want to reserve your spot and are confident that you already know enough about the procedure to schedule, you can secure a spot by paying for the deposit at ATMrequest.com
blueboy
04-07-2010, 06:46 PM
This is such an amazing procedure, we have dedicated a website to Gyno and it's correction. The website is ATMgyno.com and will provide basic information. Before and after photos will be added soon. The PureLipo.com site may also be of interest and should have a number of before and after photos available.
I'm still a little confused as to how Dr. C gets the gyno glandular part out without having to make a cut below the nipple like other gyno removal procedures do. Can someone who has had it done explain it? What scars did you end up with?
Dr. John Crisler
04-07-2010, 09:05 PM
I'm still a little confused as to how Dr. C gets the gyno glandular part out without having to make a cut below the nipple like other gyno removal procedures do. Can someone who has had it done explain it? What scars did you end up with?I make a tiny, single 4mm incision at the pectoral line. Everything is done through it.
As I sweep through, I remove ALL glandular tissue, as well as fat. It cannot come back.
simpsonfan
04-22-2010, 10:01 PM
Do you make any guarantee that the glandular tissue will not return? Such as a free redo if it does?
Dadnatron
04-23-2010, 12:28 PM
I'm very interested in the gyno side of it. Being very lean already, I don't need liposuction. However, I have a question for the good Doctor Crisler: Would this procedure possibly be able to get rid of Lipoma's?? I have quite a few lipoma's on my body, and since I have gotten my BF down into the single digits, they show up a lot more. It would be great to be able to not have to have surgery to cut them out.
Look into LIPODISSOLVE for focal fat reduction. Lipomas are well treated with it.
Bulldog
06-29-2010, 10:55 AM
There is a lot of information available at:
www.PureLipo.com
This web site no longer exists. I have checked it a couple times over the last two months or so and it is still down. What's up with that?
Bryce720
06-29-2010, 11:01 AM
That is part of the problem that I had with going through with the procedure. When the website was up it was no good, very few photos of before and afters. The content was very minimal, to be honest it really wasn't worth looking at. I do believe in Dr John and hope the people who go through with it are happy with the results.
To me before and after pics are a must. If anyone has any updates, let us know??
Hemochromatosis
06-29-2010, 11:08 AM
This is such an amazing procedure, we have dedicated a website to Gyno and it's correction. The website is ATMgyno.com and will provide basic information. Before and after photos will be added soon. The PureLipo.com site may also be of interest and should have a number of before and after photos available.
Still have questions? You can contact us by emailing PatientCare@ATMAntiAging.com or call us at 517-485-4424.
We still have an opening on April 23rd and two on April 24th! Get in touch with us to schedule. If you want to reserve your spot and are confident that you already know enough about the procedure to schedule, you can secure a spot by paying for the deposit at ATMrequest.com
need video and pics......
00slotiv
06-29-2010, 11:20 AM
That is part of the problem that I had with going through with the procedure. When the website was up it was no good, very few photos of before and afters. The content was very minimal, to be honest it really wasn't worth looking at. I do believe in Dr John and hope the people who go through with it are happy with the results.
To me before and after pics are a must. If anyone has any updates, let us know??
Bryce,
There are many pictures of pure lipo on the internet for you to check out.
The site mentioned above might not have had a lot but there are other ones that do. Googling will show you more.
Bob
Bryce720
06-29-2010, 12:10 PM
Correct there a few pics of before and after purelipo. I count less than 10 when it comes to dealing with gyno. Take a look at this website
http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/gynecomastia_gallery/bodybuilder_gyno_gallery.htm
There are 100's of pictures and this is just on surgeons website. Pics of before, after, during the surgery, different types of gyno, different types of gyno surgery and so on. Once again this is one surgeon. I would think purelipo which is quite a few doctors working under the purelipo name. This being the case I would think there would be 100's upon 100's of before and after pics.
The few pics I have seen of the pure lipo gyno surgery leave a lot to be .
Dr. John Crisler
07-05-2010, 09:49 PM
This web site no longer exists. I have checked it a couple times over the last two months or so and it is still down. What's up with that?Forwarded to Ryan.
Dr. John Crisler
07-05-2010, 09:50 PM
That is part of the problem that I had with going through with the procedure. When the website was up it was no good, very few photos of before and afters. The content was very minimal, to be honest it really wasn't worth looking at. I do believe in Dr John and hope the people who go through with it are happy with the results.
To me before and after pics are a must. If anyone has any updates, let us know??
There are very stringent requirements for taking documented photos. It's quite an expensive process.
We have been hoping to rely upon the training program I went through for this.
Dr. John Crisler
07-05-2010, 09:51 PM
Correct there a few pics of before and after purelipo. I count less than 10 when it comes to dealing with gyno. Take a look at this website
http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/gynecomastia_gallery/bodybuilder_gyno_gallery.htm
There are 100's of pictures and this is just on surgeons website. Pics of before, after, during the surgery, different types of gyno, different types of gyno surgery and so on. Once again this is one surgeon. I would think purelipo which is quite a few doctors working under the purelipo name. This being the case I would think there would be 100's upon 100's of before and after pics.
The few pics I have seen of the pure lipo gyno surgery leave a lot to be .It's a concept, Dude. How many pictures of the same thing do you need to see?
TheITGuy
07-06-2010, 01:05 AM
This web site no longer exists. I have checked it a couple times over the last two months or so and it is still down. What's up with that?
Perhaps try resetting your browser cache? I was on the site just now and it seemed to be working. Although, I do know it was down for maintenance for a period of time.
nickatnite
07-06-2010, 03:36 AM
There are very stringent requirements for taking documented photos. It's quite an expensive process.
We have been hoping to rely upon the training program I went through for this.
I'll let you use my pics. Especially how much of a difference we will probably see. Haha..
Bulldog
07-06-2010, 10:48 AM
Perhaps try resetting your browser cache? I was on the site just now and it seemed to be working. Although, I do know it was down for maintenance for a period of time.
I had tried it from three different computers. It's back up now.
Bulldog
07-06-2010, 10:50 AM
There are very stringent requirements for taking documented photos. It's quite an expensive process.
We have been hoping to rely upon the training program I went through for this.
When my wife had her breast reduction done the surgeon's nurse just came in with a camera and took pictures right before and a couple months after the surgery. They didn't do anything special.
00slotiv
07-06-2010, 03:21 PM
Correct there a few pics of before and after purelipo. I count less than 10 when it comes to dealing with gyno. Take a look at this website
http://www.plasticsurgery4u.com/gynecomastia_gallery/bodybuilder_gyno_gallery.htm
There are 100's of pictures and this is just on surgeons website. Pics of before, after, during the surgery, different types of gyno, different types of gyno surgery and so on. Once again this is one surgeon. I would think purelipo which is quite a few doctors working under the purelipo name. This being the case I would think there would be 100's upon 100's of before and after pics.
The few pics I have seen of the pure lipo gyno surgery leave a lot to be .
I agree Bryce. I noticed that when I looked at many pictures from the internet. My understanding is the best looking results come when a person is not way past their ideal body weight. Less sucking, more shaping.
This is where I was going into the procedure and I had sick (very good) vascularity afterwards.
Bob
nickatnite
07-28-2010, 02:12 PM
I am thinking about getting the true lipo procedure, however I have heard it's best to get it done after you have lost significant amount of weight so you get best results. I have a few questions about that. If I were to get the procedure based on my current abdominal obesity would this better my insulin resistance almost instantly? And is this something you only do once or for those who suffer from extreme abdominal obesity or would you be able to do it twice for better results (to get what couldn't be sucked out the first time around..)
Thanks!
00slotiv
07-28-2010, 03:11 PM
I am thinking about getting the true lipo procedure, however I have heard it's best to get it done after you have lost significant amount of weight so you get best results. I have a few questions about that. If I were to get the procedure based on my current abdominal obesity would this better my insulin resistance almost instantly? And is this something you only do once or for those who suffer from extreme abdominal obesity or would you be able to do it twice for better results (to get what couldn't be sucked out the first time around..)
Thanks!
Ryan@allthingsmale.com to sign up for a free phone consult with Doctor John about this procedure.
Bob
nickatnite
07-28-2010, 06:00 PM
Thanks! I actually had it but I forgot to ask him that question.
Dr. John Crisler
07-28-2010, 10:10 PM
When my wife had her breast reduction done the surgeon's nurse just came in with a camera and took pictures right before and a couple months after the surgery. They didn't do anything special.You MUST leanr to trust me on these things.
Photos for a patient file are not the same as those certed for use in making public claims.
Bulldog
07-29-2010, 09:39 AM
You MUST leanr to trust me on these things.
Photos for a patient file are not the same as those certed for use in making public claims.
Very true. Her's were not used for marketing purposes.
liftermo
10-26-2010, 07:29 AM
Dr Alex Kakidis one of the best gyno surgoeons does not remove all the gland because naturally we have a lttile gland otherwise the nippllooks inverted and unatural, making you often look as bad as before in some cases.
What are your views on this Dr John since i notice you remove all the gland?
Dr. John Crisler
10-26-2010, 07:58 AM
Dr Alex Kakidis one of the best gyno surgoeons does not remove all the gland because naturally we have a lttile gland otherwise the nippllooks inverted and unatural, making you often look as bad as before in some cases.
What are your views on this Dr John since i notice you remove all the gland?
When performing traditional surgery, the gland is scooped out from above. You have to take great care in removing just the right amount, and in the right shape, so the nipple is left in correct position.
But something caused the gland to grow in the first place. So it can grow back again.
The way I remove the gyno is to sweep the gland, and related tissues, plus fat, horizontally. The nipple always remains in correct horizontal position. Additionally, ligamentous and vascular structures are disrupted, and I believe this aids in the positive outcome of the procedure.
This simply is THE way to remove gynocomastia these days. The advantages of avoiding general anesthesia and scarring (other than a 4mm incision at the pectoral line) add to its appeal.
liftermo
10-26-2010, 08:06 AM
Dr John,
Thanks for your reply. I have further questions.
So are you saying that you can remove the whole gland and still avoid the inverted nipple effects using this new technique?
What is the down time, swelling and recovery like?
do you still have to wear those compression vests?
Since i am from the UK i am thinking of flying over to see someone for hormonal issues in the states as the UK does not have the same level of expertise, i also have gyno from steroid use and female pattern fat.
Now, what is the price if you were wanting to beome a patient and get gyno surgery in one go? What would it cost roughly to kill 2 birds with one stone? What does gyno surgery cost? 2000 dollars, did i read right?
liftermo
10-30-2010, 06:46 AM
to people who have got it done, or anyone that knows,
Is the typical rate of recovery better than tradional surgery? What is the downtime like?
How long does it take to reocver when compared to tradional surgery?
Thanks
Dr. John Crisler
10-30-2010, 11:07 AM
Dr John,
Thanks for your reply. I have further questions.
So are you saying that you can remove the whole gland and still avoid the inverted nipple effects using this new technique?
What is the down time, swelling and recovery like?
do you still have to wear those compression vests?
Since i am from the UK i am thinking of flying over to see someone for hormonal issues in the states as the UK does not have the same level of expertise, i also have gyno from steroid use and female pattern fat.
Now, what is the price if you were wanting to beome a patient and get gyno surgery in one go? What would it cost roughly to kill 2 birds with one stone? What does gyno surgery cost? 2000 dollars, did i read right?Let me try saying this is a different way. Because the gland is gone, the nipple has to sit flat on the pectoral.
Nipple inversion is caused by parts of the periphery of the nipple being elevated above others. This happens when the gland is scooped out from above, after cutting around the border and lifting it up.
I work through a tiny 4mm incision at the pectoral line.
We have had other gents come in for a hormonal consultation at the same time as their gyno procedure. This has the added benefit of evaluation as to the possible causes of the breast growth, which is aesthetic compared to the health consequences compared to estrogen imbalance. And, oh, optimization of hormones at the same time.
Ouside of some labs usually (but not always) required prior to the quick procedure, we do both sides for only two grand.
"Down time" does not require lost time from work.
The garment you wear for a while afterward is no where near as tight and restrictive as those having the traditional surgery done.
Another benefit of this procedure is it is done with local (oral and tumescent) anesthesia, as opposed to general surgery.
Willje
10-30-2010, 11:15 AM
With the dollar in the shape it's in,you'll probably get change back from your euro.
00slotiv
10-30-2010, 02:47 PM
to people who have got it done, or anyone that knows,
Is the typical rate of recovery better than tradional surgery? What is the downtime like?
How long does it take to reocver when compared to tradional surgery?
Thanks
I had the procedure done and was pleased with it. No worse than going to the dentist to clean your teeth. You won't feel a thing and won't be restricted from doing your normal things. It will take time for the results to show but they will. I never felt unsafe at any time. I don't see there being anything to be very concerned about.
Bob
liftermo
10-30-2010, 03:04 PM
Thx Dr Crisler for the answer it is someting i will consider along with seeing you for hormone related issues. There already is one brit i know flying over to see you so i will wait and see what he says. Then there may be a planeful of us making our way over LMAO! Many of my former steroid abusing buddies are in the same boat as me although many dont admit it.
I also would like opinions from anyone that can help on why my body is storing fat / water on chest when it never did so prior to steroids, i only started storing fat when i came off steroids. I think i found out the reason myself but need verification - i think it was due to an ineffcient liver caused by steroid abuse. Since cleansing liver and doing extensive liver cleansing for sevceral months i am noticng i am storing less water / fatty material on the chest area. My chest has sort of firmed up like it used to be prior to steroids but i still have the hard gland. I dont think its a coincidence, the liver gets rid of estradiol, if it is compromised then it cant do this hence high estradiol levels, my eczema also cleared up and appetite improved, what do you think ?
Bulldog
12-07-2010, 10:09 PM
I was just poking around the www.purelipo.com website and noticed that it no longer lists Dr. Crisler when you do a search and put in the Lansing, MI zip code (48912). A few weeks ago when I looked it listed Dr. Crisler.
Just a heads up Dr. John, as I would assume it is to your benefit to be listed on their website as a practicing PureLipo doctor.
This still seems to be the case.
chilln
12-08-2010, 08:46 AM
This still seems to be the case.
I see Dr Crisler may not have read this, so I've PM'd Dr Crisler just now.
Thanks for being persistent.
.
spiderRico
12-08-2010, 10:33 AM
I had the procedure done and was pleased with it. No worse than going to the dentist to clean your teeth. You won't feel a thing and won't be restricted from doing your normal things. It will take time for the results to show but they will. I never felt unsafe at any time. I don't see there being anything to be very concerned about.
Bob
why would it take time for the results to show?
shouldn't it be immediate after you remove the tissue?
00slotiv
12-08-2010, 10:45 AM
why would it take time for the results to show?
shouldn't it be immediate after you remove the tissue?
That is a good question and I don't know the answer. Nontheless, that is the way it is for everyone. The chest can take the longest too, but in time the results will show. It took me about four months before I was really happy with my chest (I can be hard to please) but then I started noticing good vascularity there that had never existed before. Skin fold calipers have me at a 5 or 5.5 there, which is approximately the body fat % in that area.
I have vasularity in my obliques (formerly love handles) now too,and still in my lower abs so this procedure worked for me.
The best results are achieved when a person can lose a lot of excess fat first, so that more sculpting can be done. In my opinion, a good compliment to the HCG diet.
Bob
Dr. John Crisler
12-11-2010, 09:03 AM
bump
Daniel Soto
10-11-2011, 04:16 PM
Bump, so you will be offering the free hormone consultation and gyno surgery for 2k this christmas? :)
ptm82379
10-12-2011, 07:23 PM
Can you sculpt other areas at the same time as gyno surgery like abs, love handles ect?
What is the max you can remove with this procedure in liters in one session?
Do the hard knots come out as well?