JackBauer
01-25-2009, 01:00 PM
Hey guys.
No real questions here... Just that I took the time to put all my lab data into a spreadsheet, made pivot tables / graphs... And out pops trends that some may find interesting. (I filtered out any labs that were not taken 2 days post injection, and any labs that are multiple injections per week)
First graph
1. My pre-treatment average TT level is 305.
2. My clomid stim test suggested secondary hypogonadism
3. Treating with clomid showed a bump over no treatment, but it was somewhat hidden as I had to use a different lab with different ranges.
4. Moving on to hCG - you see that my average was only 10% higher than my "no treatment" labs.
Second graph
Shows the details on hCG - that as my subcutaneous hCG injection dosing went up, my TT levels stayed fairly constant.
Third graph
1. I move to transdermal. It seems that I may have been absorbing some of it. But again the trend of the Total Testosterone serum levels do not follow my dosiing.
2. Some of the higher doses include substantial evening application. (E.g, 40-50% of my dose)
Fourth Graph
1. Now it starts to get really interesting. I move to subcutaneous injections based on my physicians instructions. I was expecting to immediately feel better. But as you can see, as I go from 70mg to 130mg per week, while serum T levels vary slightly, overall the trend is flat to down.
2. I was really starting to get frustrated at this point, as I didn't feel any better... hCG didn't work, Transdermal didn't work very well, and now direct injection serum T levels were not corresponding to higher dosings. The inconsistency in labs, and the lack of EQ improvement - was starting to get to me.
Fifth Graph
1. I move to IM injections. I finally start seeing my serum T levels follow increasing T dosings.
2. With the higher T levels, and this is probably true even with subcutaneous injections, I start feeling a little less fatigued in the morning.
Sixth Graph
Just showing my DHEA-S levels. Nothing highly interesting here. Probably a bit low, but we'll have to see what my new doctor says.
Notes:
1. I know you can't really claim scientific proof based off on person, five labs of IM and five of subcutaneous. But it is interesting how the trend lines follow on the IM but diverge on subcutaneous.
2. I have some thyroid data - but really very little so I didn't plot anything there. Same thing for Free T, BioT. I have some snapshots of other lab values, but nothing I could trend against other data.
3. Today I still suffer from poor erectile quality overall... In terms of firmness, nocturnal / spontaneous erections, ejaculation urgency, erections that weaken, etc... So it appears that while I may have made great progress in getting my T levels up where they belong, there is more left to be done.
Hopefully someone finds this interesting.
No real questions here... Just that I took the time to put all my lab data into a spreadsheet, made pivot tables / graphs... And out pops trends that some may find interesting. (I filtered out any labs that were not taken 2 days post injection, and any labs that are multiple injections per week)
First graph
1. My pre-treatment average TT level is 305.
2. My clomid stim test suggested secondary hypogonadism
3. Treating with clomid showed a bump over no treatment, but it was somewhat hidden as I had to use a different lab with different ranges.
4. Moving on to hCG - you see that my average was only 10% higher than my "no treatment" labs.
Second graph
Shows the details on hCG - that as my subcutaneous hCG injection dosing went up, my TT levels stayed fairly constant.
Third graph
1. I move to transdermal. It seems that I may have been absorbing some of it. But again the trend of the Total Testosterone serum levels do not follow my dosiing.
2. Some of the higher doses include substantial evening application. (E.g, 40-50% of my dose)
Fourth Graph
1. Now it starts to get really interesting. I move to subcutaneous injections based on my physicians instructions. I was expecting to immediately feel better. But as you can see, as I go from 70mg to 130mg per week, while serum T levels vary slightly, overall the trend is flat to down.
2. I was really starting to get frustrated at this point, as I didn't feel any better... hCG didn't work, Transdermal didn't work very well, and now direct injection serum T levels were not corresponding to higher dosings. The inconsistency in labs, and the lack of EQ improvement - was starting to get to me.
Fifth Graph
1. I move to IM injections. I finally start seeing my serum T levels follow increasing T dosings.
2. With the higher T levels, and this is probably true even with subcutaneous injections, I start feeling a little less fatigued in the morning.
Sixth Graph
Just showing my DHEA-S levels. Nothing highly interesting here. Probably a bit low, but we'll have to see what my new doctor says.
Notes:
1. I know you can't really claim scientific proof based off on person, five labs of IM and five of subcutaneous. But it is interesting how the trend lines follow on the IM but diverge on subcutaneous.
2. I have some thyroid data - but really very little so I didn't plot anything there. Same thing for Free T, BioT. I have some snapshots of other lab values, but nothing I could trend against other data.
3. Today I still suffer from poor erectile quality overall... In terms of firmness, nocturnal / spontaneous erections, ejaculation urgency, erections that weaken, etc... So it appears that while I may have made great progress in getting my T levels up where they belong, there is more left to be done.
Hopefully someone finds this interesting.