Problems with high Estradiol levels.

[pmgamer18]

It seams that I am needing more and more Arimidex after starting on Growth Hormone. I have had to stop taking Armour meds for my Thyroid I went hyper on it after starting on GH. My Dr. said this could happen but now my Estadiol is going up higher I just did a HCG shot this morning at 6am took .25 mgs of Arimidex went back to bed and got up at 8am ate and now I am sitting here with the heat off and the ceiling fan on and sweating and feeling panic feeling. It starts some times after I eat breakfast but on bad days I wake up feeling like this. I have cut back on my dose of HCG from 400 IU's to 250 IU's the 2 days each in between my T shots that I do every 3 days.

In the past I eat up the T as fast as I take it now I am thinking being on GH I don't do this anymore.

Yesterday I ended up taking 1.5 mgs of Arimidex and had wood all night long. I must say this has me worried I am ready to stop using this GH. I don't do labs until the end of the month. So I just have to tough it out.

I am going to cut back more on my HCG shot just going to do a 250 IU shot the day before my T shot.

Unless the Novarel is still not right the last lot I have drove my E2 way up and other guys on it had the some problems.

Maybe what I should do is stop the HCG shot and see if this stops that way I will know.

I must say feeling like this is no way to live.

[Bulldog]

It seams that I am needing more and more Arimidex after starting on Growth Hormone. I have had to stop taking Armour meds for my Thyroid I went hyper on it after starting on GH. My Dr. said this could happen but now my Estadiol is going up higher I just did a HCG shot this morning at 6am took .25 mgs of Arimidex went back to bed and got up at 8am ate and now I am sitting here with the heat off and the ceiling fan on and sweating and feeling panic feeling. It starts some times after I eat breakfast but on bad days I wake up feeling like this. I have cut back on my dose of HCG from 400 IU's to 250 IU's the 2 days each in between my T shots that I do every 3 days.

In the past I eat up the T as fast as I take it now I am thinking being on GH I don't do this anymore.

Yesterday I ended up taking 1.5 mgs of Arimidex and had wood all night long. I must say this has me worried I am ready to stop using this GH. I don't do labs until the end of the month. So I just have to tough it out.

I am going to cut back more on my HCG shot just going to do a 250 IU shot the day before my T shot.

Unless the Novarel is still not right the last lot I have drove my E2 way up and other guys on it had the some problems.

Maybe what I should do is stop the HCG shot and see if this stops that way I will know.

I must say feeling like this is no way to live.

Have you had any labs done since you have been on the HGH? I'm just curious if your T level is higher now. As you said, maybe you aren't eating it up as fast as you were which would mean you could probably use a lower (and possibly) less frequent T shot.

I think stopping the HCG for a couple weeks is probably a good idea though. Then you would know for sure if it is the HCG or something else causing the problem.

But I think you should get labs done to see where your T level is now. You may need to make an adjustment.

[pmgamer18]

Yep I did my normal TRT labs after I was on the GH 3 days my Thyroid was very high my IGF-1 went up to the top of the range and my Testosterone levels were the same as last time.

Then 8 weeks later my Thyroid was still to high after lowering my dose of Armour from 4 grains to 3.5 but I was having a problem with feeling like my E2 was to high yet my labs showed it low. But this was my fault I don't do HCG shots the 2 days before my labs and I was doing .25 mgs of arimidex everyday so my E2 come back at 9. Yet I never lost my morning wood for more then a few days. I have done this before for got to stop the Arimidex with the HCG shot. But my Total T, Free T and Bio. T were down about 100 points on TT.

My IGF - 1 was just above the top of the range 265 my Dr. told me we need to fix my hyper Thyroid so he can up my dose of GH from .3 mgs to .4 mgs.

In the next 2 weeks I had to call my Dr. every other day I would cut back on the Armour only to go hyper again on the next day so over the next 2 weeks we cut it back to 15 mgs. I did good on this for a week then went hyper again.

So now I am not on any Armour I track my Temps avg. of taking it 3 x's a day it is now down to 98 from 98.4. If it keeps going down I might need to go back on something.

All of this crap started about 5 weeks ago and I have not been doing much but sitting here suffering. I need to get back in the gym and exercise.

Now to add to all of this my wife asked me to move the couch and I pulled a muscle in my back. WTF is next.


Have you had any labs done since you have been on the HGH? I'm just curious if your T level is higher now. As you said, maybe you aren't eating it up as fast as you were which would mean you could probably use a lower (and possibly) less frequent T shot.

I think stopping the HCG for a couple weeks is probably a good idea though. Then you would know for sure if it is the HCG or something else causing the problem.

But I think you should get labs done to see where your T level is now. You may need to make an adjustment.

[JanSz]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-3.html#post1005330

Per the research and my equations based on that research,
for average people
on EOD schedule
the optimal dose is 306iu per shot.

That is 306*7/2=1071iu/week
===================================
Keeping the same weekly average dose, and recalculating it for your E3D system.

T-shot
HCG-shot
HCG-shot

1071/7*3/2=229.5

Because it looks like everything (including HCG) makes your E2 raise

I suggest 200iu-shots
or
better
150iu-shots

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I have cut back on my dose of HCG from 400 IU's to 250 IU's the 2 days each in between my T shots that I do every 3 days.

[pmgamer18]

Yep I think your right but why all of a sudden do I need less HCG I still feel Ferring has a new lab making Novarel and it's not the same. So I am going to stop using it see if tihs stops. I can't be doing a small shot like I did this morning and be needing to take one mg. of Arimidex to bring down my E2 levels and stop the painc attacks.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-3.html#post1005330

Per the research and my equations based on that research,
for average people
on EOD schedule
the optimal dose is 306iu per shot.

That is 306*7/2=1071iu/week
===================================
Keeping the same weekly average dose, and recalculating it for your E3D system.

T-shot
HCG-shot
HCG-shot

1071/7*3/2=229.5

Because it looks like everything (including HCG) makes your E2 raise

I suggest 200iu-shots
or
better
150iu-shots

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