View Full Version : any of you going to test out these Testosterone Lozenges?
moonman
12-17-2007, 10:49 PM
Id like some more info on them....should help those w good test levels but still erectile issues?
wondering
12-17-2007, 11:19 PM
bit of a tangent... and I'll have to do some digging, but I recall readign an article about a drug in development that can restore T to normal levels, but if given to a person with normal levels will not push them over the top.
Guess it would only work on Secondary, as it sounded like you would have to make your own.
Dont recall the Pharm comp. or status.... or if it;s even a good idea.
Id like some more info on them....should help those w good test levels but still erectile issues?
scottyo
12-18-2007, 09:59 AM
Im interested in the 'troches' just got the email from the good doc but think for some of us its probably/def. unnecessary and I think might be suppressive as they suggest for those who are trying to perhaps wean off (younger guys etc.)
But the libido boosting effect sounded nice. or pre-gym for those who are hit or miss.
BigAk
12-18-2007, 12:40 PM
Id like some more info on them....should help those w good test levels but still erectile issues?
Is there a web link to read up on it??... Is it another form of TRT? If so, why mess with it if injections and androgel is available?? What's the advantage?? etc.. POST A LINK!!!
Wise Guy
12-18-2007, 12:52 PM
I think they are only for guys on HRT using TD's
moonman
12-18-2007, 04:33 PM
Got it in an email from the Doc
Dr J if you dont want this info on here go ahead and take it down...
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I have begun administering a totally new form of testosterone: T sublingual troches. They are small lozenges, containing a prescribed amount of pure testosterone, placed under the tongue to melt and release the hormone directly into the bloodstream. The sublingual route is VERY fast for drug delivery; as, for instance, nitroglycerin for cardiac patients. Before everyone jumps up and down, let me first offer the following: they are not for everyone, and not for every day! Following are a couple of examples of where we can work with them:
1. Some of you, depending on particular lifestyle and schedule, apply your T gel after you work out. That means T levels are very low the next morning while trying to train. A little quick boost before leaving for the gym might really help.
2. The second situation involves those who are well tuned up hormonally, yet still have not found the improvement in libido they seek. For them, taking a sublingual androgen can really do the trick.
Some general information: The T troches are placed under the tongue, and allowed to slowly dissolve. They do so in about ten minutes. That is about the time some men will notice their voices lowering. The troches come in a cherry flavor, and actually taste pretty good.
No one will be using them as sole TRT. The testosterone they deliver does not last long enough in the bloodstream for them to be effective in that capacity. They are not methylated, as oral steroids are, and so will not hurt the liver. However, they can make estrogen shoot up along with testosterone, and can be highly suppressive. If you are worried about fertility issues, this may be important to keep in mind.
I am prescribing the troches in 50mg and 100mg doses, scored to break in half.
moonman
12-18-2007, 04:34 PM
personally, when i get the e2 problem in check and my t levels where they need to be..i wouldnt mind trying them, assuming i still need a pick up in the sex department or weight liftin.....we'll see
a few things i wonder though....
1) how long does the extra T stay in the bloodstream
2) it says suppresive, but if youre on HCG shouldnt have to worry right??
3) does this really help that much w tuned up guys still seekin higher libido?
You see, I have never heard of these untill now
Wise Guy
12-19-2007, 06:24 PM
personally, when i get the e2 problem in check and my t levels where they need to be..i wouldnt mind trying them, assuming i still need a pick up in the sex department or weight liftin.....we'll see
a few things i wonder though....
1) how long does the extra T stay in the bloodstream
2) it says suppresive, but if youre on HCG shouldnt have to worry right??
3) does this really help that much w tuned up guys still seekin higher libido?
You see, I have never heard of these untill now
Some educated guesses.....
1. Probably 2-3 hour spike
2. No worries
3. I would imagine so, think of it like a cup of coffee on steroids.....Literally!